things that are freaking out their kids freaking them out I'd love your thoughts on this okay this is
old film I'd done called out of the blue because I'm never happy with a film when I finish it I'm
five Simonton because I'd never forgotten that incident 10 years ago where he basically with same
and I said I'm going to meet with five Simonton she's like oh my gosh I said is there anything you'd
like to say to him she goes you damn right on something I'd like to say yeah it had been 10 years
believe I'd get an interview with five Simonton and I said let me let me let me get as much of the
where I'm feeling pretty comfortable I said hey I got a little something I'd like to play for you
biologist by the name of dr. Carl Sifina amazing guy and uh they were doing something they'd never
people are quite ready but maybe some people were but I believe I guess I'd say I believed him I
saying that whoever they are they clearly are in on the secrecy because all they'd have to do
yeah so that was pretty a big deal I mean that happened today who there'd be a lot of footage right
basically and I'd never touched on close encounters of the third kind wouldn't be I'd heard about
in the film maybe 12 that was the first time I'd ever kind of gone all in on reporting on something
ever think I'd be asking a city member of congress from both parties right do we have aliens and not
deal but there was one particular person that I'd heard about that a lot of people saw it at a
right the base would call the witnesses and they'd say this is as a military base in Brazil
this just happened they'd call the witness and say um hey so and so hey how you doing
AI generated or whatever but it's from 1919 Calvin Scotland and I'd heard about it through a
a investigator who was part who was working at the M.O.D. in the in the 90s on the UFO desk his
name is Nick Pope and I was interviewing him while he was still the M.O.D. for a number of my
the picture I'd heard about it for over 20 years and I was quietly following the case and going
after it following up with Nick like come on there must be people at the M.O.D. they wouldn't have
yeah so I feel like gosh I'd like to have more proof I kind of want to believe it do I believe it
it's the slow drip disclosure theory yeah disclosure with a small D and from other people who are
it'd be too much like if you if you look at my progression over the years right I when I first got
we're having dinner in D in DC and Chris looks at me he goes pretty nuts yeah it's pretty nuts I said
busy right now I'd be there and investigating boots on the ground that's the way to really find out
about this stuff right I really would I'd like to go I'd like to go to places a lot you know
and neither one of us were into UFOs I mean not at all like we never talked about UFOs I mean I'd
because that's the kind of guy you'd want if you want to flip the switch for nuclear war