And, uh, what's interesting is that I, my friend, Gene Huff, who was my kind of confidant at the time.
you know your your wife at the time no anybody you told gene huff yeah okay i told john lear too yeah and
the ufo with gene huff and john lear and you you kind of you know took them what was it to the little
get scared and i i you know i think that's when i first started telling gene i said you know hey if all
why are you believing this nonsense yeah and um how'd you meet him um gene huff was a real estate
spoken to george knapp i had seen it on tv so at gene huff and um anyway he wound up doing
the appraisal on his house and i went with gene yeah to you know help him measure it and uh you
whole saga and then you get up with him at the casino and then you're speaking to him and gene
when we sat down even gene huff i spoke to gene huff about that and gene's perspective to that was he
the fact that gene huff was there joe was also there yeah yeah but yeah we were all we all had
eyes on him yeah and and what gene said was what you know bob lazar walks up to this guy dennis this
and that g that caught gene's attention is like you know if bob was making that up what did he do just
words but he never even looked up at me and uh yeah i just walked over to gene and said he's i i