A flying saucer, 53 feet in diameter, no seams, rivets, panels, buttons, wiring, or controls.
No fine print, no blind faith, just proof.
It gives you clean, steady mental clarity with no crash and no jitters.
So, um, no, go away and leave me alone.
No, no, no.
No, I was always into science and science fiction when I was a little kid.
No, just science.
And if I ask you on camera if you know Bob Lazar, can you just say no?
No, nothing that anybody interested about.
I mean, I'm just trying to remember what I did every day, but it was, it was, there was no really regular routine.
No, not at that.
No, I think that's very reasonable.
No, I mean, George will verify that.
Dr. Teller responded by telephone and told me that he was no longer active, but just functioned in a chief consultant capacity.
No, no.
I said, no, no, no.
No, no.
No, I mean, some of the stuff in there was just nonsense.
And, and you, at no point were you like, this could be some like, you know, anti-gravity secret program that, you know, I just wasn't cleared to.
Like we have no idea how the thing works.
It does stuff that's physically impossible and there's no country in the world could make something like that or have the power density that it has.
There is no material.
With no central support.
No, I never, never even entertained that.
Um, above that, I have no idea what's in that top section, but that's where these small square slash rectangular holes are around.
And yeah, from a outsider, it might be, but no, when you're really there, it wasn't exciting.
And that, no, it wasn't a projection or it was on something.
No, from the radio, from the radio, the VHF radio.
No, it's like the, you know, analogy I, I gave, you know, you can go back to the 1800s
Because there was obviously no physical controls to it.
No, each one was different.
There's no way that there could be another one of those that just coincidentally looks exactly like what I call the sport model.
There's no way you can tell me that those original pictures aren't genuine.
No, it's hilarious.
No, no, yeah.
No, it'd far exceed the speed of light.
of sightings worldwide no what did you see that movement no i didn't
not one guy driving around no that's not one guy driving exactly so again there's no public out there
lake just papoose lake so they're removing s4 no what they removed what the the specificity there is the
to the bob story no not when that was happening he was still investigating the bob story so he said that
entire career just to support another law another liar like it doesn't make any sense to me no no it
uh i never was never able to find it because i mean back in the time i was looking for him there was no
no idea okay no idea um but there was kind of a collegial good will between you and yeah yeah yeah
what does it feel like does it is there a texture to it or no it's just it's just elastic but it it
then it becomes impossible there's no way you're getting past the next three inches you could probably
like what what does it feel like when you're in it does it feel like no it just feels it's literally
no it just a coolness a heat uh it's just like space time itself yeah it's just i don't know how
or more of the same way but it made a little black ball in the air where no light was a sky escaping
looking like a little black hole but no you could just tell there was no light at the focal point
no fuel no exhaust no propellant just electricity as the input converted directly into motion a new
there's no ion wind what kind of thrust in newtons or grams are you getting well we're we're still
measure the currents we make sure that in many cases there's there is no current which is very odd
that right right yeah all that stuff gets tossed out yeah you're not even ionizing the air no it's
wrong with your tests but not in 1500 tests no you know you know when you've gone through it that many
uh no i can't yeah i know yeah i you you got to assume there's that the thing's working but you
so there's no magnetic field interference yeah right man that's we're making progress live here
other than me um well i mean you and him i just no no you don't get walked off set no you and him
black hole a little gravitational source you just see everything getting sucked into it no matter what
would you have a best candidate for what it is no hmm there there is no that's why i think i mean i lean
movement freezing movement but not affecting anything else there's nothing that just freezes a move no it
you know your your wife at the time no anybody you told gene huff yeah okay i told john lear too yeah and
mesa was a mesa or no uh it was right outside it was uh yeah before you know before you get to the black
there's no landmarks around there and if you keep going like another mile or two there's a black
that was absolutely yeah you were finished no they're not gonna come on back it's no no yeah
he said why are you working on secret weapons or something i said no i'm working on this and you
were just showing up to work no but i mean you know they were still doing
news to help me get this stuff out no i think i mean at that well things were starting to get weird and um
yeah no fair enough um lear is somebody i think a lot of people have questions about because he was
no one living in the sun john and um said yeah they they built the moon on jupiter and uh that's
he had no filter yeah i mean he could have a four-star general tell him something
about ufos before you got the job at s4 area 51 no it didn't talk to me about him but i mean he spoke
and the memory lapses it caused now what there's no memory no memory lapses okay it's you know
you nervous that there would be some red alert no not at all you were like zero concern you didn't
is doing in the government yeah yeah it's it's kind of a mess yeah yeah yeah no and it's uh i mean
or stuff like that so went down to the fbi and reviewed everything with them and they went no you can
that's cool went down to the bureau of alcohol tobacco and firearms no we're we're good you
know and the postal service no everything's good all right great we're gonna go selling it and then um
with everybody i didn't check with us so don't you guys talk so yeah one hand has no idea what the
other is doing when it comes to the government yeah no i believe that um is there any part of you that
sense yeah yeah yeah no i think that's fair there's this john lear interview where again this is it's
his it's it's in some ways it's corroborating your story because it's saying like no he was there he was
what's accurate and what's not decoding the voynich manuscript or something yeah yeah but um yeah no he's
talk about no okay so um you know um i mean i i don't know it's all guesswork yeah i mean when we
and go like what do you want yeah he would have been like stop talking yeah no i i mean i kept
it there's a thousand but there's no direction to go in i mean that was so striking from the
look at yeah they weren't they weren't taking the legal angle at all no no which is really if you want to
secret yeah so you would drive by there and they would call it that everybody called it that yeah no way
talking about epstein that's one guy that's one guy it's not just one guy clearly not no it's not
hobby or something like science was his hobby and he just had money so he uh no ability to connect to
there's a lot of smoke but no fire is the thing we just talked about with bueller extremely high
all right yeah you have yeah yeah how have you measured oh no no there's no follow-up question okay okay okay
legacy is so like 200 years from now okay no one's gonna know who i am i don't know that i don't think
it's it's more likely you'd be forgotten if no one comes out after you do you do you hope to
that's cool but i have no idea what other people are doing yeah yeah but i know exactly what not to do
shot yeah interesting so do you think it was shot with like a kinetic weapon mechanical weapon no no
being eaten by some uh animals no way yeah the body's being eaten one of them one of them from
form did you hear anything about that no other than working with night and all yeah but you did work
with night and all i sell it but did you work you didn't work with it no no no no okay okay okay
so you didn't hear anything around around that there no not not a peep did you hear anything
about any other materials no that's material science we're not allowed to know that stuff oh okay so that
kind of you know gnarly or were you like no you know at this point i'm going what am i looking through
were leaving no no they there were they were anxious to move the project out of there completely
no did you know it at one point like when you discovered it yeah yeah you did yeah yeah but you
forgot the yeah i have i have no idea oh man because that would be that yeah i know it would
recording yeah but no um so no okay okay okay yeah but then can't but then can you figure out the isotope
if theoretically you did or no yeah okay yeah you could all i'd have to do is have it again okay oh i see
weinstein said that he did he was kind of exasperated he was like why are there no physics theoretical
and see what we come up with so um no i don't know again that's what made me think this isn't gravity at
these claims don't lie in the realm of conventional proven science but while there's no proverbial fire
other no other readily available material sits at the intersection of diamagnetism topological insulator
things are real that the data is real not what the there's no conclusions yeah um the data is real