John Lear was super into UFOs before you got the job.
you know your your wife at the time no anybody you told gene huff yeah okay i told john lear too yeah and
john lear and today is march 22nd 1989 we're standing just about uh eight miles due east of groom lake nevada
the ufo with gene huff and john lear and you you kind of you know took them what was it to the little
i think it couldn't hurt to at least tell one person you know so did you want because uh john lear
gave the like um said like you know hey yeah i mean yeah john lear is the one that contacted george
no one living in the sun john and um said yeah they they built the moon on jupiter and uh that's
appraiser and uh at the time john was looking to get a loan on his house and um he had been on
george knapp had a show on the record like after the news and john lear had been on there back when he
you know tons of files and had lots of great contacts the only problem with john was
know kind of got talking to john and that's how we met he's such an odd character because his father
yeah yeah he was he was quite a guy he was and so um he i mean he had a problem with john too i mean
john was eliminated from you know his will and john showed me as well you know every paragraph said
except you know everybody gets this except john olsen lear except john olsen lear except i mean he was so
like you know as far as uh uh you know aviation engineering prowess or something but uh john lear
is due i mean he had all kinds of world records and it's just uh it's just his filter john lear
okay yeah what's your relationship with john in fact that might have been the first question really
some stuff yeah he's met him and yeah he's uh it's fascinating and i mean john would just do the
taking it so i take the jump seat behind the you know pilot and just fly with john did he talk to you
sense yeah yeah yeah no i think that's fair there's this john lear interview where again this is it's
impossible to parse what the hell is going on with that guy look i have told i have heard john lear tell my
have come from john lear but um i don't know i mean that the thing is some of the stuff he's saying
if you're talking about statements john lear made it's tough it's really tough to find out what's
like even i feel like john lear was like like he had you know there's a picture with him and g gordon