And he'd go over to North Carolina.
He is a super patriot from North Carolina that was raised in an evangelical church kind of mentality.
So when I went with him to the beach at Wilmington, North Carolina, we sat there for about an hour.
And there was this big anti-gravity conference that was going on in North Carolina.
One of the stories that we talked about recently was they paid like $20 million to some university, I want to say in North Carolina, to study psilocybin mushrooms.