Because science and technology would be the branch of the CIA that would be trying to exploit it through programs and other things.
And, you know, Jim Simivan was like a big, huge deal in the clandestine service at the CIA and was Chris's friend.
So going back to your work with the CIA and you said you also worked with the NSA?
NSA and CIA.
And doing very different, because I know like CIA is very compartmentalized with like the different things that you're doing.
the CIA went and stole a bunch of files from Tulsi Gabbard's office about MKUltra and about...
And there's a fight going on between her and the CIA guy, Ratlinger, Ratlinger, whatever
The CIA just raided Tulsi Gabbard's office.
Agents hauled out dozens of boxes, files on the JFK assassination, and MKUltra, the CIA
The CIA famously has said that, you know, all documents were released and other documents
CIA on UFOs.
Well, how crazy is this that the former CIA head of science and technology now works for the MITRE Corporation?
John Ramirez, Jason Sands and I were from the CIA.
From the CIA.