We're not talking about Roswell, 70-plus years ago.
have not made a penny off of any of their testimony.
They're not, you know, selling books at, like, a conference
Right? And it's not just some random Joe.
especially if they're not familiar with, you know,
but they said had the animals of the farmers the two farmers had the animals not made a ruckus at
two o'clock or three o'clock in the morning they would have not even heard it or known it was there
like you know what what's the problem you know just trying to help i'm not you know and that's when
going to get very weird for you not they're going to hunt you down and kill you they're going to get
paulo probably not you know and then the ability to show up a couple hours after he had seen this
to have people oh yes he said no question now uh did he see inside it not that i'm aware of okay yeah
want to give one example of how we got to the girls because the girls are like this is not a career
offered cash to retract their statements a lot of money they did not they did not and the mother said
i will not have my daughters are not liars that will not that will not happen that's right they
my guess and i was doing a silly tv show which i'm not proud of at all my bad but whatever it got me
and got out i was like you guys leave without me i'm not i need some juice i need something i need
take you and that's how we first met whoa and so had i not been bitten by the you know what i mean
pickup truck and i told her i'm not going i'm too scared i won't come back then louise asked please
on earth does you know you see them in the movie saying that it's like incredible yeah and it's not
anonymous they're not doing this anonymously neither is the neurosurgeon yeah neither is the neurosurgeon
I think I've ever been. I said, no, well, not necessarily.
Well, that plus threatening to shoot you, I think is, you know, not a normal reaction.
One of them was with the former governor of Arizona, Fife Simonton, when he confessed after 10 years that he had not only, um, believed about the Phoenix Lights case, but that he too was a witness to the event.
And then he looked into it and he, as a pilot in the Air Force, he said that thing could not have been from here.
And that was a moment in my career where I honestly, and I'm not just making this up, I remember sitting in my chair and I'm going, did the governor of Arizona just say that he too saw it and that he looked into it and he felt it was otherworldly?
And I'm like, I think I must be dreaming. And so I'm like pinching my, I literally grabbed my leg and I pinched it. And, and I was like, no, I feel that I'm not, I'm not dreaming.
So apparently it was, uh, and, and, uh, I'm not qualified to do, you know, I'm not a neurosurgeon, but from what I understand is that there was swelling from head trauma and that he had released the pressure by putting, I guess they do a little hole or something like that where it releases the pressure.
But not like, no, it didn't happen.
We are providing a platform for people to come forward and not be ridiculed, not be laughed at, taken seriously.
The incentives go in the direction of him not revealing any of this stuff.
No, not happy, but sad, hunched over, pale and sad, and he had no hair.
The desnana, the fear that we ourselves possess, just as we became afraid of this, this being whose nature we do not know.
Stayed in the sin, in the sinuses for days, if not weeks.
And he was like, well, if you're not going to meet with me, I said, Roger, Dr. Lear, Roger, I, it's not that I don't want to meet with you.
The creature was really ill, was not feeling good at all.
Not only the pictures, the footage, but the creatures itself and the spacecraft as they took it to the United States.
He said, no, absolutely not.
We were given the order that we should proceed to follow a number of specific vehicles, which were clearly unmarked and definitely not military.
So I followed this military man, you know, who was from the Secret Service, passing through the city center near the hospital, if I'm not mistaken, the regional hospital.
It's like putting together a piece of puzzle, right? Not once have we had it any other way.
Yeah. Well, the chief police says this is not a story. It's history.
Yeah. You filmed that like not too long ago.
But it set us back at least, at least 60 minutes, possibly 90 minutes. But, you know, it was a little later. Maybe it was like seven, seven 30 at that point. And we show up at his house and they had just gotten home like 10 minutes earlier. So we would have missed them had we not gone and stopped to get that pizza.
You, you, you, uh, there's, uh, you know, and I feel the frustration from people out there like, oh, there's not a picture. There's not a video. First of all, I never give up and I'm not giving up. I will never give up. I'm getting closer. We are, as a team are getting closer and closer and closer. And the developments that are happening are unprecedented. It's an ongoing investigation. I'm not giving up. I think this is the case that's going to blow it all out in the open. That's my humble opinion, because I can't think of a better crash retrieval case involving the Americans.
I need a copy. I said, Lou, it's not done. He goes, I don't care. I need a copy.
So for the, have the United States, the USAF land in Campinas makes perfectly good sense. Like I said earlier, all the pieces of the puzzle line up, it all lines up perfectly. Like every single person, there's not been one conflicting testimony. There's been a date here and there where it's like, oh, well, maybe it was earlier, maybe it was later. We don't know, but everything else lines up perfectly.
I don't know. I mean, I'm not a huge FOIA guy, but I mean, the CIA, like really? And it's basically like, you know, cause I asked for records. I was thinking like, okay, so let's just like back up. Let's give it like a window of 10 days or whatever. So we know the incident happened. A lot of the sightings were on the 20th of January. So why don't you back it up a little bit?
Yeah. And the NSA, of course, gets back and says, you know, we can't, we did not confirm or deny the existence or non-existence of this program.
That was close enough to like, he could get help, but not too close to reveal their, their presence. They cared about him.
And I'm sitting there like, oh, like, I don't know if I would have gotten it or not.
But according to this individual, that, that it's not like, I didn't, I didn't have to fear for my safety kind of thing.
I don't believe that. I don't, I don't. Um, and that's not to say, you know, if you're, you're a hammer, everything's supposed to look like a nail. And so if your job is American national security, like, you know, maybe that's the way you're supposed to orient yourself towards this.
That's, that's not my personal belief. And yeah, I mean, look, you just spoke to, you know, tell a ventrelli and, you know, this is the, this thing was like an angel and it was higher consciousness than ours. And it wanted us to know how special we are. And even that could be a form of deception.
Because he's going to be very methodical, measured, and, like, not panic and do the wrong.
He, he's not alone.
And not, you know, we're trying to deactivate your tip of the sphere defenses against us.
Not that we're trying to dominate.
Not in a threatening way, but like we follow, Oh yeah.
And then quite honestly, I don't know if I'm still not ready.
I'm not out there just trying to, I really don't.
And not like that, but it's like, once I pay back my investors, I always put my films on free platforms.
And he's like, uh, he goes, no, no, that's not what you saw. What you saw was super natural.
Yeah, but he primarily did photographic analysis. And he said to me years ago, cause I was like, why are all the pictures blurry? Like, you know, and people criticize that all the time. And he was like, if they're not blurry and they have a defined clear edge, this is 20 plus years ago. He goes, that's when you should be suspicious.
Yeah, because by the administration, I was so disappointed, like rush came out during the Biden administration. It's like, you're not even to address it.
Yeah. So, but it, it's clearly good for their career. It's not bad for their career.
You know more than me. Well, not really, but, but you know what I know, I know. Right. Cause
is not the time to let up as much as I want to go spend more time with my family. And I do believe
together. Yeah. Speak, speak, speaking of people who did not hold back on the truth. Uh, Paula 14
came out and anything happened to him, Buzz was not supposed to play the hero. He was supposed
No. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You interviewed her not too long ago.
These things aren't sun streaks. They're not, you know, asteroids, comets, meteors, obviously
they're, they're not satellites because they're pre Sputnik in 1957. And they look like mirror,
in the tens of thousands, if not more. And not one person from high level at NASA.
And, and you had the Danny Jones, you know, but, but Bart Cybrell is, he's not associated
And I'm not going to sit there and say, I'm, you know, I know what I'm talking about.
And so, uh, and then according to Podesta, Clinton was not happy with the answers they
It's not public.
Yeah, yeah, not live.
And have this, you know, specialized X-ray system that would not only be used as missile defense,
He's not an anybody.
But like, yeah, was not a nobody.
This was at the time where, you know, not official covers, this idea of being a knock for the CIA was like rampant, like a ton of these guys.
And, you know, I'm not out here screaming E.T. from the hilltops.
I'm not.
Why not?
So I'm just going to criticize you and I'm not going to, you know, I'm not going to, you
If you want to say, you know, give us the extraordinary evidence, but why not create that
I can't talk about that because they asked me not to, but I said, if that goes out, that's
not going to look good for you guys.
So not as good as things you've seen in the open source.
I did not get a bad vibe from him, but.
went in, it was not too far from the Pentagon and I had to get a 48 hour background check,
It's, it's not illegal, right?
No, the first time I went on Rogan, I, I, I was like, I'm not going to be the guy who
Not nothing but nice things to say.
You're, you're like this avatar that like, you know, you're some evil, like, you know, and you're not actually just like this full dimensional.
When you meet them, like, I always say like, like I've said some things very rarely and particularly not publicly, but I said, I said this, you know, to this person's face.
I'm not going to sit there and like, Oh, he said this.
I'm not trying to be.
Uh, no, no, not really.
Not, not short.
you know, and it was like mathematically, we are not alone.
As extraordinary as it sounds, it's not the first time.
Maybe it goes down in a, in a, in a way that's more manageable for you. I don't know, but I'm trying, even if it gets out there. And by the way, I'm going to make this abundantly clear. Unless I have to, if somebody gives me the footage, I'm giving it away for free. I'm not going to charge a dime for it.
You know, come with me. And. Oh yeah. That's not normal in the space. So this, uh, there's, there are a lot of people, you know, they call it. It's like, I want to get the quote unquote scoop. Yeah. And like, I'll even see like, I'll cover a thing and then somebody will try to like front run the thing. It's like, and I'm always like, great, good. You cover it too. We'll both cover it. That's like whatever. Yeah. Power in numbers. Yeah. Yeah. It's like, we, you know, so I appreciate you. And, um, this was, this was amazing, man. And, uh, I'm excited to, to do this and hopefully do this many more times. Thank you, brother. All right. Thank you, Gene.