Like, like, like, just very matter of fact, very intelligent, kind of on the kind of traditional vector of of signals intelligence. And he said that he was part of this secret NSA program. And it was called Project Preserve Destiny. And it was he was supposed to do this kind of continuing ELINT education, you know, in Air Force. But while he was there, he was taken to this complex, this NSA complex at Maryland.

Yeah. And the NSA, of course, gets back and says, you know, we can't, we did not confirm or deny the existence or non-existence of this program.