And he was at a UFO conference once, and Darryl Sims tried to get him into an alien implant, and he thought the subject was ridiculous at first.
Yeah, he went to, he went to, um, a convention, I think the UFO Congress and, um, he met, uh, Daryl Sims there who was, um, the original guy on the implants.
And he, he went up back and told Sims that, that, um, you know, if you can get some patients out here that have these things, um, I'll x-ray them and take the object out if it's there.