And even Jake Barber is in it without knowing it.
Jake Barber is, of course, the guy who has been out recently on Insider and he's engaged in various ways with the phenomenon.
One of the things Jake Barber said was that he had experienced being possessed by a very, felt to him like a very sacred feminine presence.
And Jake was engaged in aggressive actions toward the visitors.
Jake Barber, no.
And when I read about or I guess I heard Jake, maybe Jake was talking about it, one of them talking about how they would get a psionics person to call them up and then shoot them down.
If you were to give Jake Barber and his team some advice on the, then what?