And even Jake Barber is in it without knowing it.
Jake Barber is, of course, the guy who has been out recently on Insider and he's engaged in various ways with the phenomenon.
One of the things Jake Barber said was that he had experienced being possessed by a very, felt to him like a very sacred feminine presence.
Jake Barber, no.
If you were to give Jake Barber and his team some advice on the, then what?