I had the fact that he and Dr. David W. Webb, who I can talk about, had both been very frank with me about the fact that I was engaged in a real experience.
And they've been, like Dr. Webb, people always hate the government, but Dr. Webb was deeply involved in this.
If you look at David W. Webb up on Wikipedia, if they don't take it down because I'm talking about him, you will see that he was a space scientist.
You know, as I said earlier, Dr. Webb was very much helpful, and so was the man at Stapleton.