I had to reach out and learn more.
Having been at NSA and being one of their senior leaders,
just almost people are over-indexed on intuition.
And you really kind of lay out all of the possibilities
And at the end, we come up with a conclusion.
So one thing we used to do is say,
which isn't visible and doesn't seem to interact with light.
And so I don't know if you guys have considered that as a possibility.
And that's deep.
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if you look at the Vedic scriptures and the Hindu
and the whole notion of transcendentalism,
can have perception and learning.
And we have gut bacteria,
when even in the body,
in our own body that we've studied so much,
You say,
well,
that's where the answers are.
and what we know.
And just be humble
outside of a few missionaries
where I believe,
everything would be
in a flat plane.
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There's a really cool
which you obviously
would do in traditional science.
Like maybe there are
end dimensions
the Indian nuclear program,
that was a failure
And that feels like time
in many ways.
which went one direction in time
and a simultaneous equal one,
oh man,
this thing's all connected,
But do we really think
having epistemic humility,
And so,
I guess I shouldn't say this,
What do you guys
Let's say,
we have censors
because in looking
at the possibilities,
And we could
move those around
and obviously
a visual signature.
I thought,
well,
that has essentially
zero mass.
If I were going
to fake it
on purpose,
and that is,
by the way,
one of the things
we look at in the book,
if someone was
consciously going about
faking something
to make you think
there was a UFO.
For whatever reason,
like the Russians
do this all the time.
They call it
Moskerovka.
They make us think
they can do things
that we never thought
they could do
to deter us.
Right?
And so,
I asked,
this is what I used
to do at Disney,
fake things.
And I talked to
this guy,
Cliff Wong,
who was the world's
expert on drones.
And I said,
if you wanted to fake
X, Y, or Z,
how would you do it?
And so,
he told me.
He said,
well,
what I do is
I would have a big,
a huge balloon here
that was towed
by a little teeny drone.
And you'd think
it was this big orb
when in fact it wasn't.
Right?
we get into
all the ways of fake,
but getting back
to the plasma,
I said,
these glowing orbs
could be free,
free space plasmids
you have,
you know,
eyewitness observation,
you fire in the sky
you could say
they invented it,
called psychosomatic
or crazy
they're in great physical shape,
and some Havana syndrome victims
describe disabling
the otolith of the ears,
State Department and CIA,
a number of victims
and this is not fake.
that could be sent
from anywhere
that would cause
some of this kind
create these kind
of effects.
there's a lot more
sensors around
honest,
don't look at what
of the best
really going to
risk their careers
community told me,
you know,
on a Navy base.
that's an act of war
because they've done it
if officials acknowledge that this is what is happening,
a bunch of evidence from CIA circles that there is some sort of mind
matter connection,
I will tell you this,
And I'm not going to say impossible.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And then to me,
I have no idea what it is,
but I know what it isn't.
that transcends chemical combustion?
yeah,
which,
yeah,
dehydration,
vacuum,
So I think the bottom line of everything that she's saying is we should never say never when it comes to nothing could sustain interstellar travel.
we've talked to did it for the government and he's been forever trying to say,
I didn't know that.
But we've done it with birds and frogs and spiders.
And you can take non-metallic things and you can tractor beam them basically.
Right.
So to have a steep magnetic gradient that would cause this at a very long distance,
Because you're not moving in that frame.
Yeah.
You know, if we don't make any other point, I want to make this point.
That in all of science, the biggest discoveries are by definition those we don't expect.
And again, remember, that's where discovery has to happen,
And the thing I like about fungi, it's so interesting.
If you were to think about like a Kardashev three or four scale civilization, you wouldn't create this kind of like biological meat suit.
You know, you show up as this, you know, gangly, you know, you know, bipedal being, you know, in some other planet.
And you're immediately treated as a foreign invader.
You would send an extremophile, which is like a zip file of consciousness.
Humans all have microbiomes, but we have mycobiomes as well.
So it affects our thinking.
And they're extremophiles that you have, you know, cordyceps mushrooms in the Amazon kind of co-opting the actions of bullet ants.
And so there's something I think very interesting.
And then human tissue is very susceptible to fungal disease because it's so similar.
You know, we're actually more similar to fungi than we are to most other plants and animals phylogenetically.
And so it's this really interesting thing of what you would send this thing off that would like merge with the host, you know, and then it would affect their consciousness.
Well, if they came here, it would be a fun guy.
There you go.
He'd be a load of fun.
Yeah, it would.
Yeah, there you go.
Yeah, I mean, but I want to follow that thread just a little bit.
had maybe emotions, had feelings?
And the cloud just doesn't move.
And you go, hmm.
where math isn't a property of the universe.
It doesn't describe the universe.
And you turn one illusion into one fact until you finally get to something that's close to the truth.
And that's what science is like.
Another thing you kind of touch on, another theme, without giving away too much, is this idea that there are these almost gang wars going on for this forbidden archaeology.
And there's like a blackmail network involved.
And the intelligence tradecraft that's in there is real.
You're getting companies like Palantir and Andrual and Ursus rockets,
or some major rockets where they're saying, we're going to get venture capital money.
And then, yeah, maybe there are some other, you know, issues we have to think about when it comes to it.
That's not at all what happens.
And I take it face value that they know nothing about the UFO stuff.
Where there's an air column with a little fan.
Mm-hmm.
You know, we got bombarded by a lot of stuff from Mars.
And it turns out conditions for forming life abiogenetically on Mars were there before on Earth.
But I think it's really interesting because he says that these exist in excess of what you would ever expect with just normal, you know, radioactive isotope decay.
And that the only explanation is that.
This is depending on your stringentness with, you know, peer review and, you know, what your definitions are.
But there are a lot of ancient hominids that we just didn't even know or anticipate.
could be responsible for maybe the increased amount of cancer or digestive cancer
that we have in people that are 45 years old or at least less than 50 years old.
We've got an increase of colon cancer in less than 50 years old.
that goes far beyond the metaphorical.
It's literal.
Yeah.
And I think it's important to, and I say in the book, it's very important to listen to
the body.
And sometimes the body will tell you, oh, no, no, no, don't do that.
Or you've got sensations like tingling sensations or like not in the throat.
When you're about to do something, like if you're about to marry somebody, somebody's
about to marry somebody that maybe you're not meant to marry, somebody could have a knot
in the throat or trembling.
Or it's important to listen to what the body is feeling because the body knows usually.
And sometimes the body will know if it's the wrong person to marry, for example.
So before taking very important steps in life, I say, listen to what your body is saying.
Because if your body doesn't want to, or if it's before taking an assignment, if you have
What you find is that's a collection of individuals that start to behave in concert.
So when you look at your body, you know, your toenail does a very different function from
your liver, from your brain.
So it's hyper specialized and they don't connect with each other.
Yeah.
And then, of course, the listening here, which is my entry point to you guys.
I really appreciate your time.