So when I found out that a former NSA director of research,
you are the former director of research at the NSA,
Having been at NSA and being one of their senior leaders,
I spent years at the CIA after leaving NSA and ODNI,
And I was employed by CIA when I was at NSA.
the head of NSA?
The head of NSA.
from the NSA.
all of NSA's
And I said to a very senior person at NSA,
while you were at NSA or ODNI,
I did get involved in some FOIA requests at NSA as a senior executive,
And he said he was taken to an NSA complex and he was like,
It's cool to see the former CTO of the intelligence community and director of research at the NSA say that.