And of course, at a long form conversation, we discussed the history of covert UFO research programs, their connection with Robert Oppenheimer in the Manhattan Project, white presidents and elected officials may have been shielded from the UFO secrets in the past.
The Manhattan Project, they were kind of the first blue look.
It's been marinating for months and it was executed with Manhattan Project's style secrecy.
I would probably ask starbocker, Oppenheimer, and be like, what was your thought process in the 40s and 50s, you know, scrolling this away, I mean, besides overlaying the Manhattan Project secrecy, because often I was the one who created the classification that included the UFO stuff.
And all those guys, the guys that were involved in Manhattan were overlaying the same ecosystem of secrecy and some of the same ways to protect stuff that they were protecting on nuclear secrets.
The Manhattan Project.
The Manhattan Project, they were kind of the first blue book.
the UFO report people on the Manhattan Project.
And it was probably very tied in with the Manhattan Project.
The Manhattan Project would have a custody of it and then it would go into the atomic
who also worked on the Manhattan Project.
he's sometimes credited for helping Oppenheimer pick Los Alamos as the site for the Manhattan
The guys that were involved in Manhattan were overlaying the same ecosystem of secrecy in some of