This interview with “Gerb,” an alleged insider, supports claims of long-running government crash retrieval programs involving recovered UAP materials, echoing testimony from David Grusch. Gerb details a highly secretive network of agencies like the CIA and contractors such as Lockheed Martin moving recovered craft and biological remains to facilities in Nevada and potentially Germany for reverse engineering, focusing on advanced materials and potentially interdimensional technology. He claims incidents like Kecksburg and Rendlesham were also part of these retrieval efforts, and that disinformation campaigns actively mislead the public. Gerb corroborates theories from researchers like Bob Lazar and John Keel, stating these programs continued into the early 2000s and are still ongoing, with a possible extraterrestrial origin for some technology, potentially even from Mars. He is willing to cooperate with investigations like AARO but doubts full disclosure will occur.