And Michael Herrera, I believe.
And then when he heard this guy Michael Herrera's testimony, he said, holy shit, that's exactly
But Herrera, by the way, had approached me some years ago.
And Michael Herrera was a Marine for people who don't know.
So the other thing that Michael Herrera saw was this crate.
and press conference we did where Herrera and some other whistleblowers were speaking.
So getting these people, so this specific situation, Michael Herrera was in Indonesia after
After we started talking about Jake and Michael Herrera's situation where they were extracting