And Michael Herrera, I believe.
And then when he heard this guy Michael Herrera's testimony, he said, holy shit, that's exactly
And Michael Herrera was a Marine for people who don't know.
So the other thing that Michael Herrera saw was this crate.
So getting these people, so this specific situation, Michael Herrera was in Indonesia after
After we started talking about Jake and Michael Herrera's situation where they were extracting