After David Grush testified under oath in the summer of 2023 and provided historic disclosure I was then asked to go to the IC IG and did so in August 2023.
I think prior to David Grush and people beginning this process of bringing people into awareness of the reality of these programs and certain things people have witnessed, probably extremely widespread.
Ryan Graves, David Grush, David Fravor.
They said they were real. The other person who said they were real is David Grush.