Back in the days, nest teams, which were elite operators sent to deal with anything that
involved nuclear technology or nuclear secrets, this was comprised of various specialized
that the CIA deals with human or human intelligence.
The new director was a former director of the National Security Administration, the NSA,
John Kuzlowski.
He's given these like binaural beats.
And then like basically he's used as like a sort of, you know, human antenna for like
one of these downloads.
The gene Ronberry was inspired by this woman named Phyllis Schleeman.
This isn't to be confused with the Air Forces Foreign Technology Division to separate things
under Lieutenant General Arthur Trudeau.
He's, he's seen.
Another example is continued mentions to the majestic documents in day after Roswell.
And I think it was a donkey hoodie.
Yeah, chased after windmills.
No, I, I think it's the, it's the future of physics.
And I think it's just, so like when you have an anomaly in physics, if you can't turn
They, they, they, they, they coined their own terms for like telekinesis and psychokinesis
when they kind of bought up the research from SRI.
He said alien replicated vehicle.
But even so.
I know that.
What do you say about you?
This guy and I started talking and we hung up on the phone one day and he called me back
10 minutes later.
with something substantive, just, like, accepting that and incorporating it into your worldview.
I think the other tricky thing is, like, people can say when you cover this topic that
you are shilling a thing.
And you can be a grifty.
Or grifty, which is absurd.
Like, I do have, like, a company that, like, encapsulates my show.
I've never taken money out of the company.
Like, I've never, like, made...
I mean, money has come in through, like, sponsors and that sort of thing because I do
want this to be sustainable.
I've costs.
And, like, I'm down to make money on it long-term.
But, like, what I was doing before was definitely more of a clear path to making, like, a lot
of money than this.
If anything I've lost a lot of money over the last couple of years, it's kind of funny.
Like, but, yeah, I don't think you can do anything else other than, like, earnestly,
kind of move forward and just be humble and cool.
And, like, people sense that.
Yeah, I really...
From what I try and do, I see a big gap in modern day in terms of investigating primarily
which is a federally funded research and development center that is likely up to their
eyeballs in UFO legacy programs.
Like you start to understand things about reality due to some of these experimental effects
where you're breaking the bounds of, you know, our reality in some sense, you know, through
occurred later in 54.
And he, while working as a contractor for the Seamarton company at Dougway at the West
Desert Test Wing in the Avery section stumbled upon a building where he saw a craft.
What did you see on the film?
Was it color?
I do think it's important context for the audience like, we're going to get comments,
trust me, bro, or whatever.
cases of UFO crash retrieval.
And even if only 20% of those are true, that's still, you know, above 20.
The air shows going on, there's all types of interesting stuff, you know, fighters, advanced
technologies and so forth.
So somebody did not want this out.
And so, okay, Brad Sorensen actually has a first hand interview with Bill Scott of Aviation.
He's a nice guy.
Yeah, yeah, he's cool.
So he said he tested reverse engineered vehicles at Area 51.
At Area 51 and Edwards.
publicly disclose about UFOs.
And I think that turned into a group where they were reading about, like they're reading
who's done a lot of work on drawing the Roswell craft.
He actually worked with Robert and Ryan Wood to create the two extraterrestrial biological
alien reproduction.
Triangular alien reproduction vehicle that's seen over an Air Force base.
You know, perhaps the two are not mutually exclusive.
Because there's also stories like if you heard of of treat.
But he also said that alien reproduction vehicles don't exist.
Do you think there's aircraft systems that have kind of leveraged technologies off?
I think that there's a very wide swath of retrieval teams and retrieval operations.
Well, there are people who I think are pretty credible who talk about this,
like these continuity of government programs.
Yeah.
So the 5412 committee, you know, national security, you know, committee, you know, back in the
50s and 60s, that turned into the 303 committee, which turned into the committee of 40.
Do you have anything to say about that as far as they're kind of, you know, interesting?
I know as that John B. Colonel John B. Alexander said that the majestic 12 was specifically a
continuity of government program.
Right.
But I hasten to adhere to what he says because he lied about this, but special operations manual.
He lied about a bunch of stuff.
Yeah.
And even in the Wilson memo, you know, the way they said that, you know, the Wilson, yeah, of course,
you know, also, yeah.
Absolutely.
So this is was in 1997.
1997 was when the career will Miller, Thomas Wilson, Stephen Lovekin meeting took place.
The briefing took place.
Okay.
Interesting.
But one was, and then 2002, 2002 is this
meeting between Eric Davis, who's again, this help put off protég, propulsions expert.
was like a real meeting.
His diary came out after the Majestic 12 documents, obviously, it come out and they corroborated
If you were to simulate back then, if a UFO issue were a thing and we had exotic materials
and we were in contact with an extraterrestrial or interdimensional intelligence, you would
like 1953 and onwards in, from the Harvard Observatory.
And at the Harvard under C Observatory at the time, you had Robert Sarbacher.
at the time, along with Paul Mellon and Alan Dulles.
There's a story of Paul Mellon spilling the beans to his grandson who's alive now, John
this Italian UFO researcher who's like really on that trail.
I'd love to hear more of a description because the only real description we have is from
work on Project Y, which was an extension of the Avrocar project, which is trying to
get flying saucers to work.
And it's like how can create a bigger bomb?
And then at a certain point when you're at the Zarbom level or whatever you're at, you
There's always a world in which these energy systems could be powering deep underground
military bases, then we just don't know about it.
where they're from, what they do, why they're here, and how the programs that study and exploit
these technologies have been constructed, because there's a lot of very dark things in
If there's an intelligence on the other side of it, which I think there is, I don't think
that ends well for us.
So you're right, mainstream media could not care less.
It can't care less and it's wild to see realities just diverge so starkly where it's like
I don't know how much of that specifically made its way to Ken Clipinstein, but like,
and the DOD has all these like secret sources from the USAID.
at the history of sign grudge, blue book, OSAP, go look at numerous sightings, mass sightings,
just go, go through a long list of UFO sightings and projects in the 20th century.
because then you can look for the C-130s from.
You can look at nearby contractors.