It kind of indicates Stephen Greer as well.
He's only ever done two interviews, one in 2001 for Stephen Greer, one in 2023 under
When he gave his testimony, when Michael Herrera gave his testimony at the 2023 Steven Greer
It's public through Greer weirdly.
And then when Greer started his kind of whistle blowing efforts where he started to attract,
this is Stephen Greer, not just Stephen Greer, started to attract all these people coming
So I think this, I think because of Greer's own ego and like, I have my feelings about
Greer, both pros and cons, he released, he likes to frame this as, oh, Stubblebind offered
still is an egregious sum of money was to purchase Stephen Greer's institution C-SETI and
So it wasn't just to buy off Stephen Greer.
So what do you think was so valuable about what Stephen Greer was doing in 1992 that would,
meat of the Greer saga and the Greer information starts to pick up around 97.
It's really hard to track down what Greer was doing in pre-1997.
I think there was a really big shift in Greer.
But so in 1997, I don't know what Greer was doing before that.
He had been in contact with Greer and this UFO researcher who I think is one of the most
underappreciated people in the entire realm, he introduced Greer to various witnesses that
And by the way, the term alien reproduction vehicle that most people associate with Greer
And around the same time, I talked about this in around Northrop as well, Greer met a person
And we can see from Hamilton and AH most of the grounds that Greer operates on today,
Greer's research he's still used today.
I mean, Greer's a big proprietor that Dougway Proving Grounds out in Utah saw a lot of UFO
So Greer has really built upon, like most of us, like all of us, he stood on the shoulders
But there seemed to be a real shift when he gained that sort of popularity where Greer
And Greer's also been busted for posting photos of like cactuses and stuff and saying
Because I've never spoken to Greer.
So when Greer releases DPI archive, and I went through that and looked at all the accompanying
look through these and I would say like, why does Greer get to talk to these people
He said, I just talked to Greer and he said, you're an intelligence asset.
So apparently this guy, when we hung up off the phone, he then contacted Greer because
he was still in contact with Greer.
He gave Greer my full name, which I would prefer if he didn't have done that, but that's
Greer said I wasn't an intelligence asset.
Greer said I was an intelligence asset.
Because historically, like, wherever you look, wherever you look in this subject, Greer
I mean, I've talked to a witness who didn't go on the 2023 Greer NPC, but I've talked
There's also claims by Greer and others that at some of these black sites, one to two
There's a witness that contacted Greer in 2023 that I found his name, investigated him
Well, Greer did the right thing with this witness, Ed.
So this isn't just Greer saying that.
There's other, if you look through the Greer archive, there's other witnesses.
It's actually really interesting to see witnesses who are going to talk to Greer and so forth,
I've only ever seen his discussions with like Greer and the emails on the DPI archive
the PI 40 by that guy A H. We talked about with Greer.
Part of the reason he reached out to Greer is because your point energy systems were being
Do you believe, because that is part of this Stephen Greer narrative that the lost century