And that was first confirmed in 1986 to UFO Researcher William Steinman.
So those are disputed, but the Steinman thing, I believe Steinman contacted somebody in
He was named in a conversation to William Steinman, UFO researcher that one of the attendees
He was first contacted in I think 1984 by William Steinman.
He returned William Steinman's letter really cryptically with a type thing saying like, go,
But eventually he would kind of meet with Steinman, another researcher named Henry Azadahel.
But when William Steinman asked him about, or maybe it was Henry Azadahel, asked him about
And we know from William Steinman, this great researcher, UFO researcher, that this guy,
I mean, you have in 1987 or 86 or 87 when Eric Walker is asked by Steinman about the
And then William Steinman connects this with Thomas Townsend Brown and his gravity experiments