of our primary interviewee, Jake Barber in the story, was Fred Baker. And Fred Baker
the credibility of our primary interviewee, Jake Barber. Fred is a legend in the US Air Force
story of his work with Jake Barber. Fred, can you tell me within the constraints of what you're
2021. Correct. And since then you've been working largely with Jake? There was a stint there
and met Jake. So Jake recruits people like yourself from the elite of special operations for the
One of the things that I think a lot of people will have trouble believing about Jake Barber's claims.
No, no, no. We were both out of the military at the time. This is shortly after I met Jake,
this is a good sign, it's going to be a big night. So as we know, that as Jake is disclosed,
I mean, do you think, I mean, I think for Jake, if I can speak for him, it's clearly being
of whether I want to pursue this or not. So let's go to one of the stories that Jake's told us.
Jake Barber has told us how he was advised that there were high value targets,
and Jake doesn't want us to go into the detail of what ensued, but it was a dangerous operation.
Not as much as Jake was, but that's due to ignorance. Once I saw that he was concerned,
to speak about things that are highly sensitive. But can I ask you this, do you think Jake Barber is a
authentic. Correct, yes. So a decision was made by Jake that he wanted to go to, and we're not
Yeah. I mean, it's legitimate though to be concerned that the safety of Jake and his team
much? I don't know that. I can't confirm that. So you were also part of an operation where, as Jake
me specifically, but potentially Jake or our group. He just wanted to pry a little bit, but he
And I just, you know, borrowed out the Jake texted to him about it and said,