And one of the people that went with us is a UFO investigator researcher by the name of Ben Hanson.
Tell us a little bit about Ben, Bryce.
Ben Hanson is a good friend.
Now, Ben Hanson is interesting because he used to work for the FBI.
And so it was fantastic that Ben Hanson was able to meet us up in Santa Barbara and go out on that boat with us because he gave us kind of a sense of of all the anomalous behavior that is happening in that area.
Have a listen to what Ben told us.
One of the interesting things I thought going out with Ben taught us is that it isn't just the government that gets to decide what we know and when we get to know it anymore.
So if you take a look at the technical capabilities that Ben Hanson was able to marshal for us to go looking ourselves, it is extraordinary.
The fact that it's now possible for journalists like Ben Hanson to obtain military grade, non-exportable night vision gear that allows you to see very clearly at night is quite extraordinary.