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our books your books and about the ufo topic in general that everyone involved in this at an official

and i said wait a minute there's a project a dia and a and an associated to my particular group uh

of sciences for an unclassified program and somehow skinwalker ranch came up short discussion and that

clearance i believe it was called an l clearance in dole and then uh once i was employed there i went after the

and that we had to convert to one so there was uh there was an effort i had to read every line and make

the truth and we did the same thing throughout aussap uh when it was untrue that it was an unclassified

uh dr lakatsky you're like building an institutional argument kind of that the u.s government ran a serious

obscure what was meant to be but is there an untrue statement in there no that's what we wanted

contractor like uh bigelow aerospace uh and an even smaller one bass their specialized study for this

i'd like to see if the public comes to the same structure for kona blue as as we did based upon an

right there but not totally uh we know there's an uh a medical impact in fact it's quite significant

been a paranormal research or and it would have been funded it wasn't an issue of money it was an issue

approached um by a naval intelligence individual and we're given i i mean i got an earful with the

there at the ranch i'm talking about an actual person uh uh in the air so um

and he testified to a material transfer from lockheed martin of what they assumed to be an nhicraft and i

words well that's an answer and i'm surprised they're being said you know there's i saw something

lockheed martin um you know to trying to move ufo from lockheed martin to to the offset program am i an

it could be an inspection it could be we were looking for a list that's the that's the first

step that's an even further baby step we were we were looking for a list that was known to exist

doing their job as an instructor so i i don't want to be like that but they wanted to have you come to

that would be a big crumb but i i i just don't believe it that was an unusual

what's an alien in the future a combination of all probably well let's say a machine intelligence ai

well sort of a an overarching authority similar to what jacques valet has postulated a control system

uh an overarching system that is on earth uh doing all of this now that is not in contradiction to my

suggestions on the index which is as always confused me is how am i supposed to form an index on these

other materials out there uh you have written in a previous book there was an entire craft of unknown origin

or not that actually happens i don't know what those files would be but it seems like there is a an

if other individuals or an individual asked me higher level wow equivalent level in the constitution so you're

process and you're doing it but uh you you can't you can't come to an answer by just getting another

be the president has issued a directive it's not an executive authority has no authority behind it to

released well i'm i'm i i think you would be getting an incomplete story an incomplete narrative if

pushed a little bit further can you just elaborate on that oh yes sure you would be getting an

incomplete story an incomplete story i mean if if if you're satisfied with the fact that they would

you know i wouldn't be but you also know that that's a good starting point what you just said as an

and we could bang hammers on a craft of non-human origin you know an extraterrestrial maybe even

said yeah i'm going to do an interview tomorrow they knew who george and i were talking about and

saying this right now as an old man because the crew is getting old jeremy they're going to start

seems to be very tantalizing tidbits that at least an element of kona blue went forward and may still be

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