Where the American public can then decide what it is how much value to attach to it that's why for the second hearing because remember we we didn't have hearings for for 50 years and I know for a lot of us who are kind of coming into this new like the UFO thing what we're seeing so much information it's almost gets a frenic like there's just so much information it wasn't always like that.
Why lie so it was just so bizarre to me like i still don't know why like i still don't but um i think when we're asking for transparency on the UFO issue and we are putting our trust in people that are supposed to represent us in congress we should know the ones that are shooting us straight and repurchase rep Luna so far everybody has shot straight.
And and you did you ask rep birch it the day after the hearing who delivered the macla constellation report because there's a whole process to it and he told you and then your question about why why it was misrepresented man his answer was interesting because he is stuck you know he stuck there's somebody chairing it and you don't want to blow everybody up but he was as baffle des us about why they were shaping.
I actually and I don't even know if this is how the US system would work.
It was very odd because I Georgian I were being pressured like okay so they did want us to testify for a long time or they were at least telling us they did.
And there are a number of conversations about what we would provide and we didn't ask to testify this was brought to us right.
You're telling us that you're you know you're going to bring this American public then fucking do it and luckily we had Lou so now the American public can dissect what he said can question him on it and know he was under oath and I think that that was a huge win.
And I being told not to fully trust them look it's I guess it's politics maybe I'm naive you know but there is corruption and politics so where does that leave us everybody like you and me.
That they want to know the truth about this what where does it leave us I think Congress should keep moving forward and I think we should be very have a have a strict eye on how it is they present information we should get the inside story every time that there's a new hearing whether I.
That they're you know looking through psionics to pull in craft and all that okay cool show us like that's really cool we should hear you out but let's get back to that first part so you say you're part of a crash retrieval program David Grush said that that we do that and now you're saying you're part of it I think a lot of attention should be put on that we should try to unravel the physical tangible hardcore roles that people had in government either keeping the UFO secret.
The positive aspect of it is that you you just get so many more minds on these cases now look if history shows us anything there's going to be disinformation there's going to be and it's going to get up there right like that's just part of it if you remember back in your history of the UFO lore you know project blue book did a great job at that is disinforming the American public and stigmatizing the u a p issue UFO issue.
You can make the greatest UFO document documentary on earth but if 20 people see it on Amazon Prime you know in Botswana then that's not going to move the needle in the US so it needs distribution it needs money it needs marketing behind it you'll know that with with your documentaries and getting on platforms like Netflix ASAP can be a big move as well.
So I hate it in the UFO world when we're so pessimistic about well that wasn't what I expected I mean I'm guilty of that too with hearing you know like wasn't exactly what I wanted but it was a step forward and I think we need to be patient some of us have been at this longer than others like George has been out this 40 years.
Congress itself moving this forward has done a lot for knowledge and understanding on the UFO topic so despite the fact that I saw shenanigans and despite the fact that I had to endure some of that which by the way people should be more concerned about this isn't about me this is about us it's about you.
The closer you get to the goodies George does say this and he's right the more pushback you get so I have experienced that George has experienced that there are a lot of people that don't want us to report on some of what we've obtained.
And we know that because the head of the DIA UFO program Dr James Lakatsky talked about a transfer from the vice president of Lockheed Martin there was supposed to go to us up a DIA program and it was shut down by the head of the CIA to people within the CIA.
what degree because George is old school he's seen it happen we watched a certain people have been threatened and penalized for even just speaking to us right like threatening emails from high up all the way down like don't talk to journalists don't talk to these guys so we've seen the the reprisals that have been put on people and George made a good point he goes yeah that makes sense to a degree but where do you draw the line
you know I can understand keeping certain funds secret so you can work on programs and keep in certain UAP program secret because of the weaponization potential but at some point we're done with that and we just need to say it like it is representative government represents us it's now time to come clean on the UFO thing and I think we're we're close to that closer than we've ever been before that we're fed up with it and and hopefully that has impact
Look it would suck if the dirty deep secret in the reason why a lot of these legacy program people when I push all the way up to the edge and I say what is so scary what is so dangerous for us that you can't say anymore that you just stop right there.
guess that the abduction phenomenon if it is what it appears to us to be that that is a terrible terrible frightening thing for for human beings to have to contend with the there are abductions and I would suppose there are abductions I would I would suppose
it takes us like one tiny little satellite
is there a ship heading towards us,
With so much information being thrown at us all constantly,
But we're going to get a lot of things thrown at us deliberately
that a lot of the individuals that will come to us,
And other journalists do that with us too.
what those drones over the US actually were?
and that it is important for us to find out more.
who have informed us in awkward positions
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