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Where the American public can then decide what it is how much value to attach to it that's why for the second hearing because remember we we didn't have hearings for for 50 years and I know for a lot of us who are kind of coming into this new like the UFO thing what we're seeing so much information it's almost gets a frenic like there's just so much information it wasn't always like that.

At some point the author of that needs to come forward and tell the American public what it is and how it is that he got exposed to this information and and that is coming and that's exciting like I'm excited about it too.

But understand when you bring people forward behind closed doors and you have them meet with the house and Senate and staffers that does so much for the American public's understanding but there's a limit when you bring them out forward under on television in a congressional hearing then we need to contend with that information we need to vet it we need to contend with it.

I don't have reason to think that Louis pulling something on the American public but the way to test that is to have someone like Lou test by under oath.

I wanted him under oath because I thought the American public deserved to have that and it was a heavy lift and it shouldn't have been at one point when I'm working with accountability and oversight.

I was like you understand you are doing a disservice I said this verbatim I said you understand you're doing a disservice to the American public if you don't have at least one person who is factually known to have been involved with the American public.

I'm involved with the UFO topic in government I have given you people to give subpoenas to I've told you who who would come forward willingly who wouldn't and you're you're not 100% going to have Lou test by I'm like that's insane that's totally insane in fact it's a disservice to the American public if you don't do that and I think they were a little bit threatened by that to be honest I mean that was one of the words that was used against me that was like a threat I'm like it's not a threat this is like you're either doing it or you're not doing it.

You're telling us that you're you know you're going to bring this American public then fucking do it and luckily we had Lou so now the American public can dissect what he said can question him on it and know he was under oath and I think that that was a huge win.

The positive aspect of it is that you you just get so many more minds on these cases now look if history shows us anything there's going to be disinformation there's going to be and it's going to get up there right like that's just part of it if you remember back in your history of the UFO lore you know project blue book did a great job at that is disinforming the American public and stigmatizing the u a p issue UFO issue.

Yeah that's a complex issue I'm surprised he brought it up it's like front loading you know criminality you're like hey by the way we might have done this and you know we should have some forgiveness I don't think he's holy wrong but what he's talking about is the black budget and early on my days investigating this UFO topic like way before I ever said anything publicly I actually went down to the library of congress and I calculated for a friend the American black budget for that year.

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