Um, there has been an individual that I have formed a close relationship with that served for multiple years within an FFRDC.
And this is due to the compartmentalization, the siloed nature, uh, top talent being elsewhere, maybe in these breakaway programs, the tiredness of the FFRDC.
or an FFRDC at a time.
Um, and, and basically learned that the missing link there is the FFRDC federally funded research
DOE and NN, NN, NNSA, FFRDC national labs, and so forth.