And I outside of Dave Grush and Dylan Borland, I haven't been overly impressed with the witnesses just in terms of exposure to the actual legacy programs.
Before Dave Rush spoke in 2023, the subject of legacy programs or UFO crash retrieval reverse engineering was just kind of like an amorphous or nebulous blob to me that I just thought the big they and the U.S. government were in charge of such operations.
I had like a very, you know, come to light moment watching Dave testify in front of Congress where I was able to start slowly picking up pieces.
I still think this was conveyed so well when, uh, Dave Grush went on Rogan.
Um, Joe and, and, and Dave Grush are talking about, you know, how put off the Stargate program, remote viewing, all sorts of interesting things.
And Dave Grush basically says, well, what if some of these psychic style psionic programs were created so that the agency, the CIA and other institutions could figure out how to unlock some craft they had sitting in a warehouse.
So, of course, Dave Grush recently came on Megyn Kelly and said that DNI Director of National Intelligence James Clapper and his PD DNI, Principal Deputy Director of National Intelligence Stephanie O'Sullivan, were not only aware of the crash retrieval issue, but also managed it in the senior capacity.
That Dave Grush had the stones to name, but nobody in the Age of Disclosure or that would would ever bring forth a name like that.
The early 2000s, you're talking about 9-11, because remember when Dave Grush recently went on Megyn Kelly, he said that the early 2000s, the onset of the war on terror, saw select contractors using IRAD.
So Dave Grush said that the war of terror saw various contractors harness IRAD to try and create their own breakaway programs, essentially.
Well, I mean, even Dave, Dave Grush has said that agreements have been made with NHI.
You know, same thing with, with Dave Grush and what people did to him and Dylan Borland.