The man at the helm was Lou Elizondo.
The last time I kind of spoke about Elizondo on my video on the NRO and on Jesse's podcast, some folks connected with Lou reached out to me and said, hey, you better be careful talking about him or he'll sue you.
In my opinion, the ATIP program was an informal working group, not a real program besides anything written on a couple pieces of paper that was directed, not directed, but the man at the helm was Lou Elizondo.
And when this plan kind of failed and Trump got in office, then that whole crew and ATIP kind of shifted towards targeting Lou Elizondo.
If you look at Lou Elizondo's early public appearances, especially the videos he released with Chris Mellon, who Chris Mellon, you know, was, I think, an assistant deputy director in the USDI, Undersecretary for Defense for Intelligence.
And this is what I believe Mellon and Lou Elizondo tried to push with the New York Times article and the videos they brought forth.
Someone should ask Leslie Kane if Lou has ever presented a hard piece of paper that said he was director of ATIP on it.
And you can start to see weird milestones in that, like when did Lou Elizondo start talking about UFO crash retrievals?
And the bridge between Clapper and the bridge between Lou Elizondo.
I wonder who provided Lou Elizondo the top cover for the ATIP mission.
Lou served a very high position within the DOD under the USDI.
What I'm saying here is I would not be surprised if Lou has not been completely forthcoming with his involvement in legacy programs before the AATIP cover program.
So at what capacity was Lou involved in your hypothesis, we'll say, in your speculating?
Well, I think there should be a chance, the same chance Jeremy Corbell gave Lou when he and George Knapp were doing a review of the Age of Disclosure.
And I'll say that if Lou Elizondo had a position within the legacy program, he should just come out and talk about it.
Have you heard from Lou at all after talking about this?
Well, I think a lot of the time the wrong accusations are leveraged against Lou.
And that is Lou having prior involvement and A-Tip being a cover program.
And that, in my opinion, involves, allegedly, Lou Elizondo, Chris Mellon, and the OSAP crew.
If AATIP was a cover program that Lou directed under Clapper, then even somebody like Clapper
And so he said that there was 115 and somebody asked about Lou Elizondo and Greer and the questions.
I mean, Lou, who was sitting there last year, he was telling me that, you know, for the first time I was like, oh, you have, you've seen writing on eggs before specifically?
And maybe the CIA OGA is getting burned lately because Lou and co are tossing the live hand