at the Pentagon, even Secretary of Defense, it's a problem.
And you see that they're like the Pentagon hasn't been able to pass the audit.
And he will himself tell you that this is 100% a thing and that these defense contractors and what he believes, the Pentagon not passing on all this, these black budget programs.
Previous tests even showing up on this congressional delegation to investigate, the Pentagon had tried to cancel the meeting.
And so Gates got the chairman involved, calls back onto the Pentagon, gets this meeting on the books.