Let's start with Harold Poveneier or Hal.
Hal, before his passing a few years ago, had taken a great interest in Chris's life.
He said, hey, I'm Hal Poveneier. I am a part of the press corps from NASA. I drove 12 hours from Cape Canaveral looking for the house of Chris Bletsow.
And I knew they were going to do that. That was the plan. I heard back then. Well, I've heard plans of 2025 since I met Hal Povinmire in 2008.