Tim Phillips is now doing his podcast tour, uh, doing his, now that he's, uh, off the payroll so
John Michael Godier is one of the smartest people that I've ever heard speak. But Tim Phillips alludes
song. Know that there's boxing instructions. He said he kind of skirts around that when Tim Phillips
air that he is familiar with the song. That's what Phillips is talking about, but the song is the special