project sign, yeah, which started at some point in 47 or 48. Then you had project grudge. So
that. I don't know. Yeah. I don't know. Wasn't a good, but he was going to go on tour and they
everywhere. They showed up in Virginia. You know, they're they're retrieving these crafts in
Italy. They're retrieving, you know, like all this around the world. Why wouldn't they also have
seeing an HD video is something else. But the next best thing is a human interaction, in my
opinion, because I think that conveys much more than what you can read on a transcript. It conveys
coat everything and organize something, then I'll, I'll, in the timeline, I'll put the video
signal, I'll stack it. And stuff that's right at the top is like, it's got to go in the movie.
their words to create the imagery in my head. So it's like I'm almost experiencing it through
their eyes. So I'll close my eyes and let the words create the imagery. So I'm watching like a
But before that happened, he gave an interview. And he talked about why he believed that was a
legitimate UFO landing that was captured on film footage. In fact, I've talked to people about it
I remember it. I was kind of new to it. I was only in it for a few years at this time,
but the one distinct advantage I had going to Roswell for the 50th anniversary is A, it was getting a
lot of attention to the media and B, if people were in their 20s during the experience or maybe
there were 30s, they were in their 70s and 80s. Right? So they were still around. They're still there.
I must have talked to at least 15 people, maybe 20. My goodness. And a lot of them on camera. You
know, I would just get them like, you know, just this guy was like, you know, talked about the mayor.
I think it was the mayor of the time. He said he was white as a ghost. Saw some of the stuff and he
said that they're not only threatened them. These, I heard this from at least 10, maybe 15 people
that they were saying they're not only going to be picking my bones out of the desert, but your
family's bones. That's what they told me. Do you think there's any credence to this is something
I've been researching recently, but you know, just on that that you mentioned that you touched on
there, the threatening of the families and everything else and the people who worked for these legacy
churning out content and sort of like the second I press upload is the second I need to forget
about it and focus on the next thing, right? So I have to reprogram myself to stick with something and
on the BP oil spill. I just stepped up to you. I just needed a break. And then when I hit 43,
with excitement. As you can imagine, got the whole thing encrypted and it wasn't there. So, but
slack jaw to Paris as well or was it just no. I mean, I don't think any of us fell on the floor.
And I'd come home. And I couldn't really talk about it because I start like as soon as I started talking about it, people just look at me like I lost my
mind, right? And I remember the last time I went, I got back and I had to see an end at my house with Leslie Cane. And I just gotten back from my last trip. I shot the whole movie.
you have to perfect opportunity. We're doing a profile on you. No, no, wait till the movie comes out because you're going to look at me like I need to up the the dosage of whatever medication them not on right now. That's seriously like.
And but I guess what I'm trying to get at is that you come back from this, these experiences and your reality is so distorted. You're like, it's a post traumatic experience. It's a post-traumatic experience in Kirk had the same damn thing. Kirk and I had talked about that comparing notes.
You know, just recreate that if you can. And it has to be with very unfamiliar sounds and things that just don't make any sense. Because that's, you know, love that right? Yeah, it's unsettling. Yeah, it's
But yeah, it is interesting. How much do you think Spielberg knows? It's guys a fan, dude. He's been putting out consistent UFO ET. No question.
No question. I actually have a letter from Spielberg that was written to Larry King about me in my movie. Well, yeah.
Because you recently got invited. Yeah. Into a skiff. Yeah. And I could say is that the Pentagon.
So I went to the Pentagon initially. It was right across the street from the Pentagon. Okay.
So I was going to have a presentation on the other side. And I had to do a 48 hour background check. And so basically, let's just say this is much as like, because I've been asked to not to reveal exactly why I went there, because it could interfere with the
investigations that are happening, but we're both going after the same footage.
And I'm helping them acquire said footage and I will be able to talk.
I'm not trying to be sneaky or secretive.
I just, I can't jeopardize those contacts and we're working together right now.
And a lot of people think like, oh, well, now you're working with some people on the inside.
Well, people are people and there's some good people and some bad people and some
people that actually legitimately want this information out.
Yeah.
So I'm working with and there was an individual that I'm working with who's now in the
outside.
It wasn't the inside.
And he pulled some strings and got me got me into a skiff with the current head of arrow.
Big deal for me.
Yeah.
For for someone who's been trying to get to the center of the maze.
Like it's one big skiff.
Interesting.
But because you know, so I started talking about specific cases.
I was like, where do these men in black come from?
That's crazy that he allowed you.
And he said to me, I didn't, I didn't say, Hey, can I quote you on that?
the guy that was ahead of blue book at the time wrote a book about it.
I mean, there are people that have been out the former head of the CIA,
some,
And yeah, that doesn't generally end well.
52, but they are showing up at schools.
Yes. All right.
get me to do that.
This is from Disco.
This is James straight up question about UAP UFO, Leovny.
All right.
That was an amazing two hours.
When you say my ex, literally, yeah, Twitter.