open to that. So I'm sitting there going, wow, so then I'm talking to Aminagar, by the way,
Aminagar. Well, so I said, well, Alan, why didn't you ever tell Aminagar? And I actually have video
with Alan and I called Aminagar or I was with Aminagar and I called Alan because I was like,
then I was talking to Aminagar about it. And I said, well, Alan thinks it was a real flying saucer.
And Aminagar's like, bullshit, no. I said, why, why do you feel so adamant about that? He goes,
search for Paul Scharnel and Robert Aminagar on some TV show in the either late 70s or early 80s.