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I think the government's conflicted right now.

Well, so I started out in the military, spent a career there, retired as a sergeant major, retired in 2020, and spent about 23 years working for the government, deploying a lot, jumping out of airplanes, doing interesting things in bad places, usually.

After I retired, I started several companies, and some of my companies were contracted by the government to do different war game projects.

It turned out to be Class 1 UAPs, and we originally thought that that was a government-made, U.S. government-made tool, so we were very secretive about it.

We'll say, for example, in 2021, the first time we saw them, we were running a war game for the government.

The blue team's job was to bring American-made, government-made, and commercial-made protective systems for blue forces.

And it should be noted that we go to events and have gone to events over the years where the government has been there already on another project.

The government does it all the time because the government has endless wealth.

Especially as a private enterprise who is not selling anything to the government right now or doesn't have a relationship.

And then I would offer, it's further compounded by, we have been contracted in the past by the government to collect UAP data.

We continued running war game events or other events for the government when all they really wanted was UAP data.

So I say that because I don't foresee any future, at least in our current paradigm, where the government's going to say, hey, James, hey, Skywatcher, we want you to go collect UAP data at whatever location and give us that.

You have to kind of talk about it in a circular way and you can't just kind of go to the heart of the matter because it's not even acknowledged at the highest levels of our government still, which is pretty crazy.

Because it does feel like a lot of people who get into the UFO subject and study it from the government perspective, like OSAP with, you know, Skinwalker Ranch.

I never held a clearance in the government related to anything or was right onto anything with UAPs whatsoever.

My government experience has frankly just made me the person I am who can be open-minded and observe and report, collect and understand.

That commercial activity might be in support of a government event, again, unrelated to UAPs because the government has said, look, thanks for the observation.

I have briefed VCs, I have briefed high net worth individuals, I have briefed the government on Skywatcher as a technology without ever saying the word UAP.

Well, well, so what's interesting is the government, if they have it, have never released the electro-optical view of the TIC-TAC.

We wanted to give our government the chance to say, stop sharing this data.

Uh, to give the government that opportunity to ask us to rescind or stop.

I've sat in meetings with various agencies of the government.

Uh, share a lot with the government and I've asked the government to nebulize me, to give

And I'll tell you the government's refused.

I feel like, uh, the lights are on, but no one's home often with the, on the government

So it's, it's, it's just so hard to make, make sense of how much the government actually

So when I meet with the government and, and, and ask them, usually the conversation will

Which is quite shocking when I'm in a room with social matter experts from the government

Do I think that there, our government has, um, some reverse engineering or technology?

Does that mean that the government knows what's going on?

I think the government's conflicted right now, our government, and probably several others.

And I think that disclosure, from a government perspective,

Let's say you're a Lockheed program manager who has a secret program with the government,

and now there's agents of the government hunting for you

So I think we have reached the point where our government has decided

So I think our government's conflicted in that without saying it out loud

I know nothing from the government.

Is that the government program?

Is the government program to expose US, Chinese, Russian, whatever technology to the layman, right?

I believe that's why when it's the government, they give me no answers.

I want the government to have the chance to stop me before I reveal secrets.

I think our government is constrained, right?

Is it all just the government or a government messing with our heads, making us think we're

They'd have to be, if the government were doing that, they'd have to know where you guys are

When we were running these government events, nobody there was doing anything psionic.

Like the government probably wouldn't allow them to be present.

And part of our frustration with the government was we were underfunded when we were funded

by the government for these events.

These guys are some kind of secret government program.

government event, we brought an energy weapon with us.

government project.

And if those are done, the government can go do that.

Is our government really that evil?

I do think you get into, you know, deeper levels of, of government or aerospace.

When we did see the class four, we were doing certain activities for the government that we can't do commercially.

And we were only able to do them for a limited amount of time with the government.

When we were doing, you know, in 2023 when we did something special for the government,

Do you think that the government could be red teaming you guys at all?

I think that's why our government's constrained.

Because on the one hand, our government whose job is to protect the nation can't come out

I like to have faith in my government and believe that they are doing the right thing.

I know I was in the government for a long time.

I know a lot of government officials.

If our government has been interacting with these things for decades, that's first contact,

stuff and they're not happy that, you know, the way the government has interacted with the

Again, I said before that I think that there are elements of our government and other governments

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