17th century

And there are stories that go back to 17th century Swedish mystic Emanuel Swedenborg, you know, saying he went to other planets and coming back.

century, 17th century, priceless looking things, right? I'm staring at this stuff. He's got a shelf

Do you think that there's a space program involving consciousness that's deeper than, because you think about, you know, there's this, you know, 17th century Swedish mystic, Emanuel Swedenborg.