But to them, it only looked like a solid chunk of round metal with no seams or anything like that.
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Your podcast covers a wide variety of philosophy, science at times, esotericism, sort of the occult,
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but also UFOs, anything from psi abilities and remote viewing and that type of thing to
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But it seems like the vast majority of people, John Keel's another example.
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that towards the end of your life, you become more introspective.
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We're dealing with imminent death with finality, right?
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you know, at this, uh, early age.
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Well, that time in midlife, I really think anytime it can start happening anytime after
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And that sounds reductive and like he's trying to boil it down to personal psychology.
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I mean, I could just list people off.
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Like, um, if anybody wants to get super nerdy, read On the Mysteries by Iamblichus, who's this
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goes on and on and on.
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And it depends who is seeing them too.
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tend to think of the serpent as this malevolent being, right?
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Like the serpent in the garden of Eden, you know, uh, the, the great serpent Leviathan
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How do you see Greek mythology?
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I used to grab whatever was lying around.
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Dull blades, constant clogging, that raw neck burn afterward.
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30 plus dollars every time the refills ran out.
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Kind of has the same story, but go on with the Greek stuff.
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But for me, it takes it out of that sort of religious connotation, that sort of cult like mind state and brings it into more of like a philosophical.
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When you talk about the Greeks rather than, you know, what happened in the Bible.
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And we could be talking about one in the same things.
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Uh, but the, the Greek stuff to me, I think appeals a little bit more to me because it doesn't feel so preachy.
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Yeah. It doesn't feel charged with some sort of ax to grind or thing to prove or dogma that you've have some preconceived notion of must be true.
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And plus we know that that kind of binary narrative can lead to all kinds of, uh, manipulation and othering, you know, like just.
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Yeah. Greek mythology is like a, a neutral territory.
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Where everybody can kind of get behind it because it's kind of stories and lore and, uh, it feels more fictitious and not so grounded in reality, but also has the potential to be, you know, really enlightening.
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And on this topic, I think one of the most sophisticated commenters in the space on it is Lavenda for sure.
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And I think, um, broadly what he's trying to draw attention to is say, Hey, when we look at these ancient stories that we say are mythological and can't be true, or they've gotta be, uh, sort of archaic understandings of how reality works by people who didn't have science and they didn't, whatever.
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And that is something, you know, I think about the end of the 30 year war in 1648.
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Um, but after a while, what happened is that there was such a resentment from either side opposing one another.
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Like there was such resentment from people who, you know, wanted the science stuff because they'd been repressed so long by the church.
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And so, although it's hard for me to conceive, it's not impossible for humans to conceive of a reality that might be entirely numerical.
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I don't remember what he was doing, but I know my friend MJ Dorian put a clip of this up on his YouTube channel of him telling this story about how he was causing an earthquake because of some, I think it was some electromagnetic thing that he was doing.
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Do you think that there are any of those technologies that have truly reached sort of clandestine maturity?
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Have you seen evidence to that, to that effect at all?
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Like, I mean, we're always sort of 30 years ahead, at least in technological, um, sort of breakthroughs, uh, regarding if you just take like the stealth bomber, for example, you know, there were rumors, the stealth bomber 30 years prior to it coming out.
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So I, I assume we're 30 plus years ahead of the curb.
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Um, what 30 years looks like on an exponential technological growth chart.
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Um, might be, might look like a thousand years rather than 30 to us because of the, you know, just the ramping up of technology.
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And then it took 2000 years, sorry, to develop like, you know, coal systems and then a steam engine.
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And then from there, uh, to get gunpowder, you know, we went from 2000 years to 200 years to 20 years to five years.
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Like whenever you ride on a, like the, the airplane I rode here, it's like, it had to be like 30 years old, you know?
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Maybe everything is instant manifestation.
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So if you make even the most perfect triangle, it won't be perfect.
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You can like get it down to like a micron of error, but there will always be an error.
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You know, we could all be living under the same dome of interdimensional beings that are controlling, you know, everything.
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They just might have a slightly better grasp of maybe how to interact with it or how to spot it.
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And then they start walking out the door.
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And he looks over and they're about 30 feet away at this point.
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clears about half the 30 feet in three strides.
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And I can't remember the.
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They said they were from the future or something.
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See, that's one of those things that I personally would love to know the answer to, because I think I really struggle to believe it would appear to you like an anthropomorphic guy.
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Yet I've also told you that one story about my, uh.
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Like my one experience where I'm like, I think that was really an entity.
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I think I really encountered an entity.
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This is your ayahuasca trip.
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That could have been the diamond.
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It, it, it had that kind of.
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Like you're, you're on the right path, buddy.
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Just keep doing your thing.
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I'm gonna, you need anything else?
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They always seem so playful.
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In my case, in this, in this particular.
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I had gone through a lot of things that were not playful to get to that point.
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It's like shitting and pissing and farting and puking.
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Complete purging of, uh, of all your bodily fluids.
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Whenever I hear people tell, oh, I had such a beautiful Aya experience.
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I was just, Mother Ayahuasca was holding.
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It was nothing like that for me, dude.
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Mother Ayahuasca had her fist down your throat.
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It could be, it could be, but yeah, whatever that was, I have pretty high conviction that
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bodies that they found in the crafts.
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How do you reconcile all of that with this idea of Western esotericism or Greek mythology?
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That Australia is real, but I can't in good conscience say I know it to be real because I don't,
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I don't have that luxury of knowing.
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I also feel that like any time that I had an out of body experience, I, even when I wasn't seeking it,
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at a minimum have to kind of do what you're doing and say, sigh is real in some kind of a way.
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The effects of the mind are real, or they, there's an ancient science that we are now illiterate to.
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You've lost your connection to it. Well, the daimon would also be he, the daimon is like your
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connection to the connection. So, um, it's like the local connection to the higher connection.
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Yeah. No, we're definitely going to find out eventually. And that's the other thing too,
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is like, uh, I talk about that with, you know, friends and it's, it's something, it sounds a
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things. Do they have the answer, you know? And, and we're just looking for that. And
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the funny thing is it's, it's such an irony that we all get the answer.
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And I had vivid dreams before that.
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That's what I was in.
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away. And this is something written thousands of years ago and I'm getting chills saying it right
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now because it's, I think it's so true. Um, basically all the sacred knowledge will slowly leak
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ebb and flow of how information is, is, um, is sort of lost and found throughout time. Um, but also like,
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you know, there is the idea that if you, you know, destroy all of humanity and all of the information,
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um, eventually we won't get Jesus, but we'll get something like Jesus.
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You know, we, we will get math the same way we had it, which is interesting. We will get like
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physics and chemicals and atoms and whatever. And that, you know, that information is kind of,
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you know, not, uh, not beholden to space or time or anything else, but these stories seem to come
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back regardless. Yeah.
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And so that is also perhaps a fundamental property of, you know, who we are.
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Yeah. And then there's other places we could go with this too, like the idea that there are
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yuga cycles, right? So there's there, or, um, this, this concept of ages, right? Where you,
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over these really, really long periods of time, you shift into darker.
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Or more golden ages.
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they're doing like magical rituals to come into contact with divine presences and stuff like that.
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So yeah, I, I highly, highly suspect he was an experiencer. And I think that his theories were
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