twenties

And okay so let's set the scene. What is going on in your lives at the time? So you're in your mid-twenties.

Yeah, we were average mid twenties, you know, males, you know, uh, we were enjoying the experience of the wilderness. Uh, we had, uh, started planning the trip the previous year, uh, acquiring gear, just slowly accumulating all the gear that we would need.

And I wasn't even prepared for landing cases, a little loan crash cases back then. I mean, I heard about Roswell, but, but I met him and he was in his twenties and I was in my twenties and I was like, boy, this guy.

interviewing him in my twenties. I went to his house and in the middle of the interview,