Gnostic

Luminous manifestation like experiences that sound like something that a platonic or gnostic mystic would talk about where he would find himself in these realms of fire, what felt like sentient fire with like tongues of fire all around him and high, what he felt like was higher intelligence all around him.

Cause it's so disempowering and it's, you know, if, if you truly take this, some version of the Gnostic, evil demiurgic, um, alien, you know, if, if that's the standpoint you take, you've really robbed yourself.

I, I just see the results of it. Yeah. Um, but then you have like the Gnostic sort of like,

In, in the, uh, oh, that's a different thing, but the archons are the Gnostic thing.

Oh yeah, the Gnostic thing. Yeah. What are the, what are the, uh, the Scientology ones?

Not the Aeons. No, that's, that's also Gnostic.

Yeah. This like dystopian, uh, you know, Gnostic Lush farm sort of thing. And we should say that he,

um, the yoda baioth in, in the Gnostic belief system. And, you know, in these other areas like the Zulu,

Yeah. And he actually referenced Gnostic thought at the time. He was talking about the archons,

who were considered kind of almost, uh, imprisoners of the kind of lower material world and like Gnostic

ideology. And you hear Gnostic thought, you know, run across a lot of ufology. Like, it seems like

Jacques Vallée is roughly kind of Gnostic in his orientation. So do you think that we're living in

cause you're looking for confirmation of God. It's like a Gnostic quest where you're like poking the bear

But, you know, for a lot of people who don't have sort of a Gnostic, you know, felt sense of God.

So that would be kind of the Gnostic version or something.