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And he said that him...
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He said that it took a couple of days to describe how human beings live in our time.
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And obviously, with the lore behind Bob Lazar and Dan Burst and everything else, all these connections.
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Listen, you can say whatever you want about what was shown to me, what was told to me, what I experienced, who I emailed, who I caught.
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And you, that's what you're facing.
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You're facing this confirmation bias of, I don't, I'm not ready for this to even remotely be possibly true.
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And it's, you just did like a hypnotic thing.
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Uh, which, you know, uh, predated the obvious, uh, interview that happened with Art Bell afterwards
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And then the later interview again with Victor, where he shows up, I think a decade later.
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Well, what's nice about my research is that I have the backstory and I can tell it now
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because I put out my documentary, everything's out, which was great.
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Uh, which, which is great because I can speak to you now and don't have to say, I'll have
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to tell you in a skiff or something, you know, something like.
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Well, you're in a skiff, so you can tell.
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Yeah, I know that.
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So, um, about, uh, four or five days before candying Tom Coleman the video, we have now
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since found out that Victor was making the rounds in Hollywood of television studios,
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um, trying to sell them this VHS tape.
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And by his own admission and by others that, that knew of this process at rocket, um, these
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Reluctantly agreed to that.
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But he said just very scientific.
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Eric Davis said, quote, they wore sandals, sometimes no shoes, ponytails, and they walked around humming Pink Floyd music.
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It came out on the UPN network.
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I thought it was Fox.
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There can't be a hand inside the mouth because the chin is only three fingers wide.
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Is, do you think that if it was a PSYOP that Victor was kept in the dark?
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Because for it to be a successful PSYOP, Victor getting caught lying would have been a big
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12 as part of a public acclimation program.
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Uh, it's not perfect even today.
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That makes sense.
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So we are very convinced that Victor was a mid to low level audio visual, maybe even the manager or the director.
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You know, when Victor's talking about the primitive conceptual framework, it's talking from an alien to talk to a human being about the,
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Art Bell believed him.
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You know, that's a, for me, as far as anecdotal evidence goes, it's a big one for me, because
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They call themselves researchers.
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I gave them everything.
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All of this, you have two military people in the foreshadow.
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And he caught himself.
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Um, there was a deathbed confession years ago.
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And like the answers were, you know, where are you from?
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And, you know, they say, you know, we're, we're part of the same galaxy, but our mission is to monitor this planet, yada, yada.
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Chris, I had a...
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Chris Ramsey and Jon Stewart are hoaxing this video.
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We have a stool left in the thing.
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We've hired two guys to wear military outfits.
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We don't really put them in the shot.
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Their shoulders are getting in the way of the camera.
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We have medics that are not in pressurized suits.
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I was told by a cameraman.
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He's in my documentary.
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My good friend, James Mastery, he was a cameraman for ABC Chicago.
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He talked to me for a half hour about digital overlay graphics.
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I said, Jim, in 91 or 96, when we think this was a hoax,
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how much to put that on there?
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He goes, like a video production company?
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It's like, this took hours.
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You ought to cut out the numbers, put it on the film,
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recopy the film, transfer it.
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And as far as the transfer and stuff, 16-millimeter transfer to VHS tape.
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Is Chris Ramsey and Jon Stewart on a short budget going to find 16-millimeter film,
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film it on that, one take.
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She, she, she contacted me off the internet, my email, cause I gave my email.
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Did you vet her?
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And in that, in the, in the facility of us.
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Giving them a name like Oscar.
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mean, that would be really interesting.
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Well, this is part of this, this for the past six years, people come out of the woodwork.
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They send us the video clip.
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We'll tell you what we think it is.
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And I was very, very cordial with him.
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I know I talk fast.
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go vertically and not horizontally in the, in a physiological terms.
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It doesn't make sense.
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there's not a device to solve it.
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He gives me the analogy.
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If you need anything else, you have my number, go ahead and give me a call.
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It's not a physiological monitor.
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And I always know and realize, like with MJ-12, like with a lot of other things, when you go public as an author, researcher, investigator, journalist, sometimes people in the know will approach you, will send you things.
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Not a typical gray.
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Instead of giving it a classification like, I can't even think of a scientific name.
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This is like the MJ-12 document where it's going to list military men's names
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My hand, Chris, my hand is shaking because I'm getting real.
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I've been MJ-12.
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I'll contact him.
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sounds like she's on her deathbed.
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And I go to hang up
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It's got to be given to you
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by an intelligence agency
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And she answered.
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I've seen him a little time.
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I believe that's my husband.
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Don't ever call me.
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Don't ever call me again.
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Carthusian monk.
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we went right to us for primarily used in what,
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one of our investigators,
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He looks like an eighties Philadelphia gyms,
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high school teacher with the eighties,
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because they all take a vow of silence.
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I am just saying.
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that was part of the program initially with,
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that they shoot him out.
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There was a lot of in and out of charlatans basically.
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and so when you're desperate,
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you're thinking out of the box,
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you're going to make desperate moves.
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and I think that's what Victor's alluding to with hiring these.
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Victor called it 1-800 psychics.
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now Victor comes back in 08 and says,
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we finally figured out what the aliens were telling us.
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And it ain't good.
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And that's when Victor,
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I think this is scary,
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says to the documentary crew,
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don't plan on any 20th anniversary of this documentary.
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I might not be here,
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but I know you're not going to be here.
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20 years from 08 is,
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what would that be?
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an alleged whistleblower from S4 says,
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don't plan on a 20th anniversary.
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and this is something,
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what can go wrong.
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Men have been killed to protect this secret,
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this secret that you're trying to expose.
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So I finally get a hold of him.
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been there at that time.
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extraterrestrial races.
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sent it to his commanding officer at right patent.
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Am I in trouble?
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that this document was created,
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but I was never down
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at the third and fourth level.
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you and I talked off camera.
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the manipulation,
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or possibly the dilation of time in order to peer into the future,
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you pretty much,
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you like bleeped out a few letters.
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such a massive difference,
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They're part machine,
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part biological makeup.
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I've just found this referee that's willing to do it.
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I am going to give him tests.
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God helped the fate of the world.
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What's the end game with,
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with the end game is for somebody in the fricking government or a former military person to stand up and say this,
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Why has this video been allowed to spread publicly,
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About the alien film.
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Then all of a sudden.
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Didn't he do follow-up documentaries about aliens?
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I will give you the full name.
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stop calling me.
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the city manager.
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Cause Rancho Cucamonga does not have a mayor and give it to the city
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Have you had any men in black interactions since starting your research and coming forward?
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I guess you're right.
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I have no interaction with men in black and I've said it publicly.
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You'd stop stealing my emails.
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You want me to stop that?
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I've touched on something that's going to compromise national security.
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that's combative.
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knock on my door,
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show me your credentials.
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I'll take you out for coffee.
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I'll go show you the home alone house.
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We'll take pictures and you can tell me why I should stop and I'll stop.
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I'm happy to do that too.
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I think that's like a good,
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happy middle ground with like national security and stuff.
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There's too many.
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there's no need for.
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I will show you what I am.
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There's a lot of this.
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they're getting warnings or like,
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I'm hearing a clicking.
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Let's just all just come into the light.
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The best antiseptic is sunlight.
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And that brings me to,
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I had two different emails.
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the spy program,
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Here's what I know.
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Corridor crew or whatever.
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I'm happy to prove Eric Davis,
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he's done a lot of work on that.
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He donated this platform to who?
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The United States Navy.
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I wonder if that was the big thing that made the Russians leave.
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opposed from me and both said,
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