And I was initially very concerned about that because Bud Hopkins, who very kindly took me under his wing, wanted to hypnotize me, but he wasn't a professional hypnotist.
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In other words, Bud had gotten me the best in the world.
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I tried it with Bud later, but I was so paranoid about it not working that it didn't work.
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And, you know, both of us, we started out laughing at Bud behind his back.
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But Bud had been really careful to shield me from any awareness of any of that.
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And Bud's name was mentioned.
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Then there's a telepathic message that they're cleansing themselves, that it's waste matter, and that they're literally—and so then I told Bud Hopkins about this.
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