at the foo fighters and uh particularly in europe as potentially nazi third reich technology and so
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tech earthbound secret tech and i don't think that he's in that place at least the last few times that
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at that time i was trying to pursue a completely different life i was working on a phd in history
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cold war studies at the university of rochester in upstate new york and i was very much into that
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that was really my question so i bought the book and i like the book it's a great book and at the
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people yelling and screaming at each other but there were some good uh threads there and there
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community were assuming at that time or is there something here because here i was i was studying
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basically the presidency of harry truman i'm looking at the early cold war 1950 and i'm thinking
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um when jimmy carter kind of strengthened foia at that time and so at that time a lot of
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that uh this phenomena is uh being seen at uh such altitudes and over sensitive military installations
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we're being invaded so i read enough of these documents early on to think there's absolutely something that is at least worth
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let's look at the actual evidence here and deal with it but they would never deal with it they would never
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happened at roswell what i think happened at roswell was i think there was the recovery of
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like velcro kevlar night vision all these human technologies being recovered at that crash site yeah
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the day after roswell was published in 1997 he stated yes my assignment at that time was to um
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some of the alien tech i don't think that's impossible at all so velcro yeah i don't really
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they looked at this and so what they found was that it was layered with i mean ultra ultra tiny
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so i started i'm looking at um all of these early documents that's really what got me in so i was
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and absolute secrecy had to be maintained over this at all costs like that was a conclusion i came to
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pretty early on in looking at these documents and uh and then just reading book after book after book
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as i was able to scrounge them up at the time this is back in the 1990s and um and i published my first
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at all over the years yes it's it's developed and it's deepened i guess i could say i've never
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we've got a privatized system like more and more you look at it it's there's government there's
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equipment and things like this to to look at it and he's convinced that there are flying saucers or
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becoming uh a hassle and a potential security risk for the people over at kirtland whatever they were
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associated with this who firmly believed he was seeing more than that but also when you look at the
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to just dismiss it all as saying he was only looking at our own secret tech i actually don't believe
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hansen case is that there's a all this was going on at this time so there were cattle mutilations
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they all got really deep into this and benowitz eventually was uh committed for at least briefly
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you look at the the mid and late 70s and two important things were happening to threaten
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the secrecy of the ufo subject at that time one was as we mentioned the release of documents of
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all in the late 70s this all happened at once prong number one was foia prong number two is crash
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retrievals it was it was kind of a first like no one was a magnet the way stringfield was at that time
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uh you know we're in an era now since 2017 new york times and politico they do their articles at that
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literally start your free online visit today at hims.com danny that's h-i-m-s dot com slash danny
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of uh ufo information to serve their needs or what i believe is we're looking at a factional struggle
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absolutely not resolved to that at all not not reconciled to that and they will fight every step of
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who was uh head of intelligence for the joint chiefs of staff at that time this is april 1997
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at all in 2019 was because of just a year and a half earlier edgard mitchell had died and his estate
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and the recent congressional yeah so like that was um oh and the reason i brought that up at all yeah
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at it i thought oh yeah it looks like that i see these things on x on twitter all the time and i just
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the mistake okay fine whatever but i don't think that any of that was in bad faith at all i absolutely
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for the one little thing rather than you look at the big picture of what these other
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not have the ability to do tilt at an angle while hovering uh rotate this way rotate that way
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with eric davis and all those guys we're looking at a kind of pile-on effect you know with uh the
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yeah more and more new information is absolutely coming out at a rate that is unprecedented we've
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this phenomenon is from non-human intelligence the reason i believe that is i look at the earliest
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i would say good not perfect but good accounts from prior to world war ii that are worth looking at as
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well and so when you look at some of these early cases and then particularly when you read uh the
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that we know of at the time in the 40s were looking into this and there just is there's nothing
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roberto pinotti who looked at a lot of the original documents that do exist in italian from 1933.
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uh there's a couple of different ways to look at this so you know hal putoff wrote a very interesting
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that as impossible at all um i mean we're already looking at exoplanetary systems and looking for life
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and then could they get to us yeah probably i don't see why not at least in theory i think it
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this at all but i i tend to think that life anywhere is going naturally to want to increase its complexity
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we've domesticated ourselves it's just like you look at domesticated sheep as opposed to wild sheep
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leap you make whether it's mastering the use of fire or stone tools or now working at it you know
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fair theory or a fair notion that our ancestors did a better job at this than we do and another thing
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much water and land being inhabitable teaming with life so now let's go look at all the other
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would look like and some of those ideas were kind of kind of goofy when i look at them now and i don't
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at all of these different factors that go into it and it seems to me that bipedal standing upright with
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some a coconut open with a rock or whatever and at the same time this quantum in this quantum field
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to the sun and the earth is similar at one to eleven thousand seven hundred i don't know what that means
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more about this phenomenon just looking at some of the statistics that seemed to jump out at me so all in
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at each other with deadly weapons that could end the entire planet's existence and you're watching
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when i was looking at the statistics of this um this whole thing happened because
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idea if if for each case you had like a bunch of categories so that someone could just like look at
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very glad i did it because then that allowed me to put all of that into a spreadsheet and look at
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i'm an amateur with statistical analysis i can't pretend that i'm some genius at it but i
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starting in the late 60s it goes to 75 at night and it was it remained that to this day 75 now i mean
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collected a bunch of these cases so i looked at all of those and then there's books and like out of
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heard of that yeah yeah kevin's a really good man he teaches at albany and in new york state
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you know look at the ocean so a lot of things about it first of all it's non-compressible in other words
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the east uh the u.s navy's got a big presence at a place called roosevelt roads there facing viecke
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not exactly at the trench but it's uh you know not that far from it i guess right or around this area
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jacques valet book where there was like a massacre down there polaris yeah yes at the amazon um the
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there this is at um it's after midnight so it's dark uh there was i looked into this there was like a half
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got illustrations or what yeah i think this is the illustration of that event oh or at least it's
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name is james copp with a k and he also reported this to a couple of other um websites uh at the time
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so he's operating communications on the j the jfk carrier 8 30 at night and he says
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as well i mean anything that can appear at the what's called the cap the cap point before you get
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at first so these objects would be in the water uh they'd hear these bizarre croaking type sounds
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something that is really not popular anymore he did these meta historians like he was looking at the grand
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study of human civilizations anyway i was reading that at the time this is 2007 2008 and um i thought you
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uh which i was really thinking a lot about of course at that time to the point where you would have
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looks at this whole thing from a balance sheet perspective saying all these trillions of dollars have
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and she described and katherine forgive me if i get this slightly wrong she said i want to look at the
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you know there are people far more conversant with that than me but yes i'm my dad worked at the world
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york city cop at the time and uh he had a really cool job as a fire safety director as they were called
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at the twin towers yeah he shared his job with a really nice man who i knew who was killed that day
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um people like my own dad my father uh you know when i started really looking at 9 11
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other floor and all the way down it did not happen that way at all but it was so anyway that goes on to
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here comes trump and and so now we're at a point where whether it's trump or anyone else whether if
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that so but i'm not i don't look at it that way so i don't have a lot of their um you know predilections
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security work for i think uh nevada brothel i think was at security he put in some cameras for them or
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this thing but then if you're looking at it from the reverse side of the lens if you're some
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very unhappy with his employment situation at the time he had met edward teller right the vendor of the
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of his at the time and they start going out to watch the uh displays of the craft and i think
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was what was my position on that's the litmus test yeah and i was like at that time i hadn't even
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my own damn decision and even at that time i was not inclined to dismiss lazar's story but i i kept it
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off to the side until i felt that i had spent enough time to research it yeah and um yeah at that time
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uh you know we we don't really do a good job at managing ourselves it's impossible yeah and there's
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an iq of 500 and they're looking right at you and they've got a telepathic ability maybe they're
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into all the little avenues and recesses and like and they don't laugh at your jokes so we're gonna run
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came out in 2019 that that document i knew it was real and there were a lot of people at the time
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off at the rest of the research community because i was for a little while the only the only person
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publicly to take a stand on it wow yeah and everyone's like throwing all kinds of shit at me and
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really yes yes he mentioned knowledge of it at the time when at when um the ass when um
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he did in 2019 2020 and then just just at the briefing elizondo this is one good thing elizondo did he
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and other related developments that went on at the same time so when i try to structure this book
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these books um i break them into chapters and at the beginning of each chapter i try to highlight like
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at all that there were a bunch of three-letter uh type agencies that we don't know about it wouldn't
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hydrolysis whatever it is and they're they're able to do that so they're at least theoretically it seems
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apparent u-turns at one point objects moving in angular motions in space there are things that you
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moved off at an angle but there's there's a lot of these types of things that seem very bizarre and
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to doubt that at all and and the subsequent activities that have had that have happened on
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nasa are like clinging to him well there's a couple of ways to look at it one is that it's an op
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greer can talk about this much more uh forthrightly than i can but he wasn't famous at that time like
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this stuff and it was like a little blurb in the newspaper how he got married at the baha'i institute
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at stake um and those individuals will use their assets in establishment media they will use their
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say this conclude that every single thing coming at you is like someone's motivated yes for some reason
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to have you have to have there's got to be a way to have some trust in things that come at you but the
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think they're an op and they work for this organization here and the fact is when you look at the ufo
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field that have something to say and it's a real we're putting ourselves at a great disadvantage if we
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there people can go uh take a look at it there's a lot of information there a great community i can't
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called richard dolan intelligent disclosure people can there we go look at that that's right there
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definitely lay the uh most of it at the cia and uh the the deep state um i think kennedy's assassination
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