Lavenda

There's some, seems like there's some sort of correlation there. The connection Lavenda makes is that all these people conducting the seance, bringing in these nine, maybe extraterrestrial beings, maybe beings that go to the

And I think Lavenda, I think, talks about this.

I haven't looked, but I just think, you know, if you want to go there, it's like, like Lavenda says the whole connection there at the round table.

I'm sort of regurgitating this from talking to Lavenda.

Because Lavenda and DeLong wrote secret machines together.

Um, the conversations between Podesta and McCasland and DeLong, and then by way of DeLong and Lavenda are happening through these emails.

And on this topic, I think one of the most sophisticated commenters in the space on it is Lavenda for sure.

I think there are, there are, this is where we get into the, to the Lavenda cosmic ascent stuff too,

it sounds very Lavenda pilled ancient aliens, higher beings type vibe where they're massively,

So I'm here with Peter LaVenda, the author of Sinister Forces, Secret Machines, The Unholy

off your annual plan. So I'm here with Peter Lavenda, who I couldn't be more honored to be with.

Lavenda. That sounds sad. That sounds dangerous.

follow it yourself. That's amazing. Well, Peter Lavenda, this has been a pleasure. I really appreciate it.