Which we never, I never knew until Ray Fowler interviewed her.
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And then she reported it to Ray.
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She was open about it to Ray Fowler.
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She was open about it to Ray.
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Yeah. In fact, we hadn't even, you know, made that connection. It was Ray Fowler that made the
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Well, even Ray did that in his book.
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And, you know, decades ago, way before, uh, we were even aware of Ray Fowler.
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So I tried to avoid it for a while and then a few days later, he came into my room and said, look, you know, this guy named Ray Fowler, Raymond Fowler is gonna, he's a UFO investigator.
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And that's how I met Ray Fowler.
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all the time that Ray thought I was going to have a seizure.
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Well, you'd have to get Ray.
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And I went to his, um, after we had, after Ray had gotten finished with his investigation,
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I'll try to get in touch with Ray and that'd be cool.
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Well, I went to his, his support group for a while after Ray was done with his investigation.
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