Tom DeLong

And it is really interesting because that's a story that I think you could hear, like hearing Tom DeLong, I'm talking to all these high level military people.

Well, Tom DeLong, who's the co-founder of I think 182, and who's worked with you.

Well, Tom DeLong and I predate that going back to the early 2000s, I think, after the

But no, I never, I mean, Tom DeLong was a great guy.

Tom DeLong.

After retiring, he co-founded to the stars Academy alongside Tom DeLong focusing on the study of UFOs and related phenomena. He also befriended Chris.

And on numerous occasions and so he's the real deal and and then that started that and then I went out to San Diego to talk to Tom DeLong, who I did not know, but he had written with the people that I was going to talk to Tom DeLong, who I did not know.

So you have Tom DeLong

they're working with Tom DeLong who's the Blink 182 frontman and you have Rob Weiss who is

you know, Ben Rich's successor at Skunk Works. He emails between him and Tom DeLong that were

named Tom DeLong, the Blink 22 guy.

I once I got breakfast with Tom DeLong, who I know you worked with at To The Stars Academy, and he was saying that he thought that a lot of these NHI are not great and that they are like our cons from the kind of gnostic tradition and they kind of rule over the material world sort of thing.

A few weeks after that, I was made aware that Louis had left the Pentagon in protest, and joined forces with Tom DeLong, Chris Melon, Steve Justice, and others to form two stars Academy, and organization at Presti issue with leading industry experts and US government officials.