John Mac

Yeah, and that's one of the big arguments too is like, you know, you think of these stories like John Mac covered and everything else, you know, that they're coming here and they're doing these terrible experiments.

The only problem that I have with what John Mac was doing is that he relied on people.

hopkins and even back then uh john mac and some other people is that and uh david jacob's

Yeah in the world like we are in moments like this I just often remember a specific interview the doctor John Mac did with one of the one of the kids from the aerial school and he asks her why she thought the visitors were there and she goes in space there is no love but down here there is and I I remember so viscerally watching that for the first time and that resonating on such a deep soul level that I don't know what I'm going to do.

But I haven't heard from Laurie what what what were John Mac

John Mac and Edgar Mitchell and

So didn't didn't the Rockefellers both on John Mac and Steven Greer as well and the 90s I believe yeah

So okay, it's what was John Mac like the sea he was well first of all we were both cut-ups when we were kids and played a lot of practical jokes and made

Lou Elizondo, Harvard Psychiatry Department Head and legendary UFO researcher John Mac,

20 years I was legal counsel for the disclosure project yeah he knew I wrote down a Dr. John Mac he

interviews taken by Dr. John Mac was a Harvard psychiatrist very impressive stuff right yeah so he