Payne

Is that Arthur Young? Arthur Young. So Arthur Young is there with his wife. His wife is Ruth Forbes Payne Young. Right. She had a lot of names. She was excessively nomenclatured. And so you have, you know, Ruth Forbes Payne Young. She's a Forbes.

Mm-hmm. She was married to a George, uh, Payne, Lyman Payne, and also married to Arthur Young.

is a woman named Ruth Forbes Payne. Yeah, Ruth Forbes Payne.

Yeah. But I think her daughter is Ruth Payne, who takes in Lee Harvey Oswald.

And Lee Harvey Oswald is living with Ruth Payne. And I think gets a job at the Texas Book Depository

in Texas, in Dallas, through Ruth Payne.

So they're living with Ruth Payne in this house in Texas.

Apparently Dulles did not want the fact that Ruth Payne had actually been at the summer house or whatever.

Payne and can you explain what he was talking about when he was discussing how Christianity does not

God. Now, Tom Payne is reading this stuff. And then Tom Payne is reading Jesus in the Gospels,

back in the late 60s. That's fascinating. So this is why Tom Payne thought that the