Transcript: Michael Herrera - US Marine Encounters UFO Black Ops Human Trafficking Operation | SRS #66 (Part 1)

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Each one of these three men have testified under oath in front of Congress.

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Our first guest is Michael Herrera, who witnessed a human trafficking operation in Indonesia

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Michael Herrera. Sean. Welcome to the show, man. Thank you for having me,

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our brother. It's an honor. No, the honor is minded. I like, seriously, there's so many people,

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they're pivotal in this environment, I should say, that you've placed in this chair that have made

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other people uncomfortable with what they've talked about. A lot of people who understand

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not all is what it appears. So hopefully I get to add to that and share with the rest of the world,

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at least in the sense of what you're doing, because like I told you, I'm not talking to media about

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this. Well, I appreciate it, brother. Well, you're all about the truth these days just as much as I am,

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and it's ridiculous how much is being concealed for a narrative, and frankly, I'm disgusted with it.

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I am too. You know, we try to do a number of things here in the things that I've really, I try to do,

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is document history from our military heroes because nobody else is doing it. Bring truth,

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uncover corruption, and bring hope. We bring a lot of hope. You know, a lot of guys that are

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struggling and women, you know what I mean, that are struggling and overcoming all that trauma.

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That's that's what we try to do here. But and with you, we're bringing truth. Yes, we are. So

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and out of that, I want to bring hope to, you know, it's not just with what I'm dealing with amongst

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the other people here that, you know, have amazing stories too. As much as it sounds outlandish and

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don't get me wrong, I think, you know, I can agree to that, at least with outside perspective.

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You because my before my event, I was actually very skeptical on it. Oh my god, that doesn't exist.

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ETs don't exist, aliens don't exist. It's only out of movies and stuff, and it scared the shit out of

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me when I was a kid, you know, some of those movies. But then this event changed my life in that

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degree because it confirmed a lot that day. It confirmed the multiple facets, not just with,

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you know, the technology aspect of it, but just the level corruption, how deep this thing goes,

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you know, and. Needless to say, it's something that was a catalyst for other things to at least kind

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of change my life to start not looking into it with directly, but just try to go deeper.

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What actually makes things happen? Yeah. You know, so let me give you a quick introduction here,

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real quick. Go for it. So Michael, where you were in Indonesia in 2009, you had a UAP slash UFO

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encounter. Your, your US marine second Italian, three fifth Marines, and you were at Operation

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Kitsana, correct? Yes. And Kitsana was in the Philippines, and that's we didn't participate

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anything that we actually got routed to go to Indonesia in that take with only ship. So a lot of

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people are getting confused with that. The rest of the seven fleets stayed there, and we were the only

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element to actually go to Indonesia for Western Cypher Sumatra. We'll get into all that.

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Before we do, everybody that comes on the show gets a gift. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Any, any guesses?

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Closest not explosive advice. I think we'll be fine. You better listen. Make sure it's not ticket.

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Let's not take it. Let's see what we got here. So, uh,

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vigilance elite gummy bears. I mean, there's, I got some stickers, man. Nobody else has these

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stickers by the way, too. Nobody else does. But, uh, I don't know. Fortunately, or unfortunately,

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for you, I'm not sure which, those are legal in all 50 states. So you don't have to worry about

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getting up through the airport, scaredy or anything. But you live in Colorado. So they got a little

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bit relaxed loss of that. Sean, thank you for the gift, brother. You're welcome. Appreciate it.

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But, um, so we connected through Dr. Greer. Correct. It is conference in DC. He brought in

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handful of whistleblowers. You were one of them. Yes. Greer came on the show. He wanted a

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military audience. And, uh, I believe to get whistleblowers after the new law got passed

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with the protection for people to come out. And it's funny. You say that because, um, 2017,

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Dr. Greer actually came to Colorado. Um, he was hosting event in Boulder, kind of doing some

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disclosure, kind of talking about some of the technology with the AT's, you know, um, UAPs. And

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just reversing their stuff, just kind of go like the whole grand scheme of things. It was like a

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several presentation. And I had my ex there at the time. And, uh, I kind of hinted her that I

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needed to talk about some things with him. So he was doing a book signing. So I go over to his table,

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I snag a book and I'm like, Hey, can you sign this? And I was, by the way, there's some things I need

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to talk to you about. And he kind of looked at me weird. And I said, it's very serious. So he had

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me as Cardney says, don't ever relay this information out to anybody. And me knowing with what I knew at

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the time, you know, which obviously there was some stuff that wasn't the works until they recently

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passed here last year, uh, two days either before after Christmas when they put this law, which

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I think it's only good thing that administration's done so far to be realistically speaking. I don't

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care if that makes people uncomfortable to know, but it's helped me out among other people. It

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might be the only good thing he's ever done. Um, fast forward to your show. You had him on the first

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time. And my fiancee and me were watching it. And that's when he started relaying the information.

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I started talking about the law that was being passed. And that's when I decided to reach out to him.

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And he knew exactly who I was, which was great. It was like, haven't talked into a friend for a while.

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And I was going to call him out of the blue. And it's just like everything just reserves back to normal.

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So, um, I expressed to him, told him my story, my encounter with this and what happened. So then

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we arranged everything to go, at least to go talk with the Senate Intelligence Committee Congress,

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Senate Pentagon, all that fun stuff. And it was a journey. It was definitely something that

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opened my eyes to a lot more because here I'm thinking my event was something that was more specific.

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But come to find out, I'm just a cog in the wheel with this whole big thing because there's

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other facets that I'm also confirming these guys' stories to a degree. The corruption

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secret organizations that have some pull in this and obviously some of the nasty stuff that they're

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doing. And there's other people down the road who are going to corroborate what I'm talking about

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to. I don't know who they are. Maybe some of the Marines that I encountered this with too.

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So I'm hoping that that's what's at least if the message gets put out there from the show,

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I'm hoping that that's what it does is they can get people to actually do something about it

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and not be afraid of it like I was. It was 14 years. Yeah. A lot of way to carry, try to sweep it under,

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but the more you try to do that, whatever you resist, persist. That's always a golden rule.

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That's a good point. That's a damn good point. So just a quick synopsis here. You responded to a 7.6

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magnitude earthquake in a tsunami hit in Western Indonesia. Only your crew was routed to that

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location and provide support. Indonesia has a large terrorist population. Marine crew was armed

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and tasked to provide security along with medical equipment and food supplies. But it was just your

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unit. Yes. Which there was five of you, correct? Yes there was. And so they end up choosing the

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Marines out of my unit at least in the company to go out. So it's not like every single Marine in the

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company was able to do this. They just handpicked people to go on these sticks of six Marines. So

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originally it was supposed to be more of like a deterrence, but also Overwatch protection. So that

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way these helos can drop the supplies, the logistics groups that were part of it can then render

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eight or whatever it is to the local population there. Was it volunteer? Were you hand selected?

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Hand selected. Okay. Or a volunteer told I should say. Okay. Volunteered. Good way to put it.

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Yep. And I'm just curious, you know, what are you hoping to accomplish by coming out?

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I want other people who have witnessed similar things or are part of certain things are very

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controversial, but it ended up being true to come out and understand that what's going on is not

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acceptable. And this is just a fastive corruption. It may not be a political corruption that's

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coming out now that people are witnessing with their own eyes. People come conspiracy theories.

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What I'm hoping to achieve is to get other people on board to understand that the government

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supports what we're doing because they were in the dark about this too. And now they're coming out

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and they're actually putting the hammer down. Recent bills have been passing as far as the

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legislation through the Senate Intelligence Committee, saying that these corporations have to

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give the goods here in six months or else there's going to be some consequences are going to face

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either through the judicial system, which obviously the government's got a lot of weight with that.

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The other aspect of it too is that they're going to ban these companies from doing contracting work

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for the government, which means they're going to lose billions of dollars. They're going to go broke.

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So I'm hoping that they actually comply with this measure because one, this technology is going to

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help benefit humanity as a whole. Not in a militaristic sense because it's just foolish.

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It's more to help out humanity because now everybody's going to be on the same level, technology-wise.

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I think the common ground here and the narrative with that is you're hearing people come out at least

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in the mainstream media is trying to talk about ET's being able. My event had nothing to do with ET's.

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And there's some misconstrued concepts that are going about. The technology may have came from ET's

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at one point and that's what we witnessed. But we witnessed much more of a sinister plot with this

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that they're using it. For people who don't know, 2009 during this operation, that's what we're

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responding. Obviously with the humanitarian nature of this because 31st Marine Expeditionary Unit

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that's mainly what the expertise is at least as far as marines go. It's not really combat

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operations for the most part, even though Indonesia among other parts in that world are large

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networks for terrorists and surgeons. So having that expertise of going in and trying to help people,

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I think it's also good to us because it teaches you the balance of instead of being a war fighter,

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you actually get to help people instead of launching bullets at people. You're still helping people

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in the different cause. You're still getting to be heroes for people, which is great.

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So totally incidental as far as our encounter, when we went on to the slug because we had our

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LZ, it was a HSTLZ and their drop in supplies, they have a bunch of stuff and it's other

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helos too. There's kind of forming a perimeter on the city of drop in Marines here. You could

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provide overwatch. Now the only thing that's unsettling with this is the fact that they never gave us

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any comms. You know as well as I do how risky that is. You didn't have any comms. We didn't have any

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comms. So the Marine that was with me, it was a higher rank than me, was very pissed off about it

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because he was a fluke Marine. So he went through a lot of shit. And one of those things,

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he always remember him telling me, if everything ends up going to shit and you look at me and if I'm

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fine, it means that you're going to be fine. And I remember him telling us all that in the stick,

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you know, he's a good Marine. He's a very outstanding guy. I learned a lot from him during my time

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in. And I thought about that concept, but then he started picking things apart too. It wasn't very

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comfortable with that. But the luckily the thing was that we were still relatively close enough

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to the LZ because when the bird was supposed to land because obviously they were coming in,

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dropping the supplies and they'd bank off. The last one that would come down would land. That's

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when we'd basically run to the helo 300 meters. You're in good shape and you have an average combat

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load, you know, 120 rounds, sort of speak with the M1684 and a camelback, not really much, you know,

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so you can make that trek relatively quick. But they also have security on those birds too.

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With the flight crew, with the gunners on the sides, they had 50s on them. So if there is some

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opposition, they're going to meet with those on top of us engaging them. So we were positioned

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near the slope, you know, it wasn't like a steep grade or anything, but it was enough to obscure

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what was going on on the other side that we didn't have no idea what was going on. So we've got,

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you know, naturally, you want to take the high ground so you have observation of everything.

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And this is when we came across this operation. And it was something that stuck out like a sore

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thumb because here you have terrain that is a jungle terrain, very green vegetation, things like that.

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And then you have something that's sticking out right in the middle of an opening and it looks very odd.

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It's something that's, you know, I'll remember to the rest of my life, to the day that I believe

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this earth. I'm going to remember seeing that and it's just imprisoned up here. I had a camera with

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me. It was a panasonic cheap camera. You know, I had kind of like, you know, ancient compared to what

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you got set up in the studio, you know, but it was enough at least because it was part of stuff that I

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would, I've never did a humanitarian assistance before. So it's taken videos of them dropping stuff

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off things like that until we trekked up to this point. I was taking some pictures because it's a

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place you would never really ever go to, at least a real part of Indonesia. It's not like Bali or

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Surabaya where it's like a touristy stuff. You know, this is where it's actual culture people. You're

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actually seeing reality here. So it's stuff that I kind of wanted to document and just say, you know,

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I was a part of this. I can look back and say, you know, oh, I remember that. But then turning the

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look at North pass that slope and seeing that down and I took some video and some pictures of that.

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And I had, you know, I stuck it in my dump pouch. You know, I was a saw gun or naturally, you know,

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so I had them 249. It was my favorite weapon. I liked having a belt fed machine gun as much as a

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pin in the ass. I liked having that compared to an M16 or M4. So because we're in a humanitarian,

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all they did was give us M16 A4s. You know, they had it RCOs at that time. They weren't the ACOGs. I

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had the mills on the sides for windage and stuff like that as well as the pet 15s. You know, so if we

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are doing any kind of night range or night operation, we'd have those with our POS 14s. So it's just a very

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basic loadout that we were doing, you know, nothing really crazy. And when we saw this happen, saw this,

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and I want to say unidentified because right now it's identified. Everybody knows what they are now.

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They're either man-made or they're not. And if they're not, the government's coming out and telling people

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admitting it not directly, but they're still admitting it to a degree that it exists. Because why would

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they spend time with this legislation coming out? That's a good point. Why would they do that? If it doesn't

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exist, why were they going through these measures to basically hold a gun up to these guys' heads

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and say, you better relinquish this technology or else? They're not just doing, knowing and seeing

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this unfold, even being in this position of having to brief the Senate intelligence among the

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Special Intelligence Service too, which oversees the letter agencies, because they had no idea what's

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going on either. But the fact that all of us coming together and making this loud amount of noise

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to get something gun about it is just astounding. And now they're finally for the first time in

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history. They're going through with this and actually trying to do something about it for their own

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understanding, but also know the corruption that comes from this. It's multiple different facets.

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I mean, you guys already, all five of you are already testified in front of Congress.

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So we testified to people of the Senate Intelligence Committee, which whether some Congress people

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there is some senators. Some so-and-for-the Intelligence Committee by Senate.

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Yeah, and you know as well as I do it, any kind of setting like that, whether you're in a skiff,

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it's all under oath still because that's their having you sign NDAs and things like that.

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So you're expected to be truthful with this. And see in the reaction, it is a very big deal.

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It was nerve-wracking at first because I'm not used to talking to government officials in that nature.

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And having a support that they've been giving me as well as a protection is just something that

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I'm very thankful for. I'm very thankful that they all have open minds of this subject.

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Even though there, you know, for years, there's been a stigma to it. For years, there's been a

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giggle effect because a little green man and flying saucers and all that. I myself never thought to

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this day that I've ever seen anything like this. So, going back to the event, we decided to get

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in the tactical column and approach this. Right. And we got down the slope and it's just like a

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clearing and just has this big opening. It's almost a little bit more than the football field because

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this craft took up joy of that. So, let's just back up for it. Let's describe the setting. Because

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at first, you said there were helos going doing racetracks around. Is this the same opening that

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you described earlier that you were watching helos drops. No, no, no, no. Okay. So, where this was

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happening with Southwest, at least where the helo insertion points were with the LZs that they were

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setting up. And they were flying very low in consideration, in consideration, right. So, and the

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reason why I know this is because I asked the pilots after this because I was on the officer's

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mess and I knew their call signs and I approached them and asked them very respectfully if they

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noticed anything strange. None of them said anything. Okay. So, I was trying to see if they could get a

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view of a topside because this is just something that's crazy, right? Yeah. So, also their call

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signs all stuck out too, you know, because pilots like to do crazy stuff with their call signs. So,

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it was very easy to track them down. But having this happen in the north part of the slope and it

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goes down and obviously, you know, the way it was transitioned colors, which was kind of the way that

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it appealed because it was transitioning for a light matte black or no, sorry, a light matte

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gray to a dark matte black and just kind of ranging in between, right? Let's rewind a little bit

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before we get into the description. Okay. How far? So, what was the activity with all the other

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helicopters? Were they active at the time that you saw the... Honestly, I don't. When we started

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going down there, no. Okay. And I don't know because obviously we were occupied with this. How far

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do you think it was? So, from us, from the LZ where we were at was 300 meters roughly. Okay. Plus,

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the slope that was concealing plus vegetation. Down the slope, it was like 300, 400 meters maybe.

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So, we got close. We trucked down quite a bit. Okay. About 150 meters outside, 150, 200, right? Halfway.

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And the reason it was about a click away. Possibly. Yeah. The craft itself might have been a clickout.

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Okay. Yeah. And as I can say, the reason why I know how big this thing was because

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did you see it as you crusted the... Yes. The hill? Yes, I did. And that's so that's where I took videos

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and pictures of this thing. That's how I was able to see it because you know, I've taken pictures of

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chaos going behind and everything. You see in the rubble, burning buildings, flooding and all that

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kind of stuff. And then you turn around and like... So you you you cruss this hill. Yep. You look down

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into into the valley. Yep. And there's a clearing. There's a clearing with a UAP. Yes. Just sitting there.

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Sitting there rotating clockwise. Yep. And that's in transition. This color spectrum I was telling you to.

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And that's why it's kind of something to stuck out. It's not a building, you know, it's not something

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that you're used to seeing. Maybe topside it could have looked like a building or something that, you know,

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I don't know. I'm not I don't have that perspective. I wasn't a pilot or anything. But I can tell you

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from our point of view, it's something that just it looked very unnatural and abnormal. And that's

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what got our curiosity to go investigate this. Now normally because we we would have had comms,

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you're damn right, would have called it in. Report something suspicious. Maybe get some eyes on a

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hilo, get a whole lot of their call signs and try to do them and fly around and they never did.

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And obviously we didn't have comms to do it, but they were more occupied with what was going on behind us.

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So when we tracked down and got it around 150 to 200 meters from it, you know, and this isn't

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open. By the way, there's no tactical advantage being in this situation because you don't have cover.

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It's jungle. You have concealment, but this kind of concealment with vegetation is not bulletproof.

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So when we tracked up close and we were at attack comms, obviously, you have points here,

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right, each marine. So you have visuals of the sides. Somebody has point and somebody has the rear.

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And all of a sudden we're involved by this military force of I still to this day, don't know who

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they are. And that close did you get to the craft? To the craft roughly 200 meters, 150, 200.

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Did you get to the bottom of the hill? Yes. So you could see, so you saw the top of it,

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and then you could see underneath of it. And underneath of it had this platform that was on the ground

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that was separate from this craft hovering. And it was it was very weird to see and I was like,

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okay, I don't know if that's kind of like a cement pad or something. I don't know if it was like a

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helo pad or anything like that at first, but then it started seeing how the material kind of looked

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very similar to what the craft was. It's like, well, that's separate. So you have something that's

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on the ground stationary and then you have something that's up top and it's just rotating the clockwise

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position. So right when we got close to it, at least, you know, 150, 200 meters out,

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the other time we were engaged, at least not in a hostile manner, at least, you know, not gunfire,

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firefight or anything like that. But the way that these guys moved was so fluid, so still is very,

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very, very smooth. And it kind of, and it kind of me after thinking about it for several years,

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is that these guys have done it for a while because of how smooth this operation was. So when we

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were in a tactical column going towards the center of this thing, they actually came from the flanks,

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but it was more of a diagonal, like corner of the room, so to speak, right? For them in a tactical

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advantage, they have interlocking fields of fire on every single person and they had a team of eight,

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right? And the gear that they had was Black OTV vest. They had Black camouflage utility. So

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what you're saying is there was, there would have been no mechs, they were professionals. Yes,

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yes, yes, can stand off where they fired their shooting into their other squad. They had, they had

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perfect angles. Yes, they did. To where both sides could engage you. Yes, team before,

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so it was like a fire team element without worrying about a blue on blue situation. Exactly.

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Okay. So, you know, with that being said, because as they, as they approached us,

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you know, hear the safety slip off. Now, you're attention to detail when you're seeing this kind of

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stuff, your sensors are very heightened. So you can pick up, I know you've been a combat readiness,

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you know, you know, all about that. Your heightened sense of awareness is going through

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astronomical changes to like, pervigilant. Yes. So you can hear stuff a lot clearer.

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And that's where you kind of picked up the hum that the subject was doing along with these guys

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flipping their safeties off, especially in fours. You know, it's very distinct sound. Anybody in

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this room who's held in fours and has shot them in 16 things like that, it's very distinct sound

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to flipping it off. So we kind of knew and they started yelling at us, you know, they were like,

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you know, you're not supposed to fucking be here. What the fuck are you guys doing here? Who the

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fuck are you with? You know, so they knew they were using the kind of lingo that we were used to,

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especially the military. So it made me think that at some point these guys actually were uniform

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military at one point. Any accents? Not accents. It's just like American dialects, how you and I

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are talking. Very, you know, at one point they said we're going to smoke us. They could throw us out

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of a helicopter. They could, it's very easy to get lost in the jungle out here. You know, they kept

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staying stuff like that. So after they enveloped us, they all pretty much got online. They told us to put

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our weapons. So we all got online as well. And we had our hands up. We had our weapons slung. And

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they're having two guys watch while there's a guy basically taking our magazines out of our vest.

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And they're throwing them on a deck and they're kicking them away so we don't have time to react.

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They also at the same time, the first thing they did was obviously take our weapon and clear it.

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But they took the magazine out and they actually held it in a way to where they could pull a

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charging handle and collect the round and have it not at the deck. So the way that these guys operate

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was very smooth. It's very calculated, very precise. You could tell they've done this a lot of

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they rehearsed a lot, you know, especially combat operations. You're doing terrain model rehearsals.

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You're doing rehearsals, whether you're clearing rooms, trying to figure all that kind of stuff out.

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These guys kind of did the same thing. I'm assuming because of how smooth it was. And because you know

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as well as I do, you get, you know, you have new guys that join a unit and they're not that fresh.

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You know, they're very choppy because they have the basic understanding. You either have to stack up

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into a room clearing. And the guys that have done it and been through combat deployments, all that,

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they're very kind of methodical, very smooth because they know what to expect. These new guys

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it's not the same thing. You could tell these guys were seasoned. So as they did that, they actually

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each Marine had two guys on them plus one that was taken the stuff off of them.

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They actually knew where our military IDs were because in Marine Corps order, you have to have

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them in your left-press pockets. So there were 15 of these guys, three on each Marine. No, no.

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So they had other guys right here and they had three that were just going through each Marine.

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Oh, okay. Other people were holding each Marine at gunpoint. And they're not like,

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they're not like super close to us range-wise with, you know, because if you get a muzzle close,

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I mean, it's easy to grab it, you know, kind of fend off, especially with a rifle. But these

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guys were off at a standoff distance and said, even if you try to move, they could, they could,

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biggest smoke. One search team of three guys. Yes. And then the rest of the squad was aimed in us.

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Oh, okay. Yeah. So and again, you know, they're not anywhere where they could actually,

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there was people behind us because obviously if they had to engage, they're going to hit one of

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their own guys probably. So it was more like they were kind of moving the same way

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through all of us, all six of us, taking our stuff, taking pictures of our military IDs.

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You know, so they had like these devices that kind of look like a very thin, it looked like a

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smartphone modern day right now because in 2009, it wasn't the case. I think the most high-tech

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thing they had at that time were maybe blackberries, but they're bulky at that point with the wall,

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and then they had their flip-phone razors and things like that. But these look like something you'd

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see today. And they were taking pictures of military IDs and they had something, some other device

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that was like a, my name is a bat system. I don't know if you're familiar with that.

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Just drive it. It's like a biometrics tracking system. So what it does is when you come across

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with an insurgent, you can take pictures of their face or retinas, fingerprints, something like that,

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but they were trying to have, they were trying to scan our IDs with this thing. And it wasn't working.

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So they're kind of getting frustrated with it. So as this is going on,

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did they collect biometrics from you? No. Okay. No. Which I mean, they took pictures of us,

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but that might be enough and then they took our IDs, you know, because some people I talked to that

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are in the special operations community with that. They said, yeah, we have a ability to scan IDs

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and it tells us everything about you. Military IDs, driver license, things like that. So it's very high

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speed stuff. I mean, in considering this as a 2009 compared to now, I mean, of course,

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they had this thing that they were using to load up stuff. It's very advanced physics, you know,

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something hovering off the ground not making any sound but an audible hum like a guitar amp or

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something that's like a transformer. So it wasn't like, it didn't sound like a jet,

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didn't sound like a helicopter. There was no engine noise. Nope. Just a hum. Just an audible hum.

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Very, it's very creepy to see because it's not normal. Was it like a bassy hum? Yeah.

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Yup. Like a guitar amp. Like if you were to unplug it, I mean, it wasn't the same pitch,

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but it was like the same same kind of sound to him kind of noise that admitted. And so as

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they're searching us, we're watching this thing happen. That's when we start seeing trucks come

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from our left and go onto this platform. And they were up armored 350s. I know exactly what

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350s are. They were kind of beefier trucks. They were matte black. When they were coming at us,

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they go left. And I was glancing between what was going on in front of us with these guys and

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then all of a sudden glancing over to what was going on behind them. And that's when I started seeing

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the key details of this thing. Like it had like a scale pattern on it kind of like an octagonal

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because it was craft itself was like an octagonal shape where you could see points.

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Had a pyramid structure on top that was black and you can see the shadowing of it as a rotated.

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But it was rotating very slow. And then every it had like these vents on every single corner on

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the middle part of these platform on this the panels anyway. There was like a Vanta black. It was

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like a dark black that would like absorb light. Very weird. Very what do you mean by that? A dark

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black that would absorb light. So if you ever familiar with the BMW they painted Vanta black. It was

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like a very super dark black. It's not like a reflective material. The matte black. Yeah, but very,

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very, very even darker than matte black. Okay. Like you can shine a light on it and it won't even

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illuminate like the bat mobile kind of something like that. But even it was like very dark. So I

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was going to describe it as like the Vanta black. Okay. And so when you when you mean absorb light

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you're saying if I shine a laser on it you probably you might not even see the laser.

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Correct. Or it would be very dull. Correct. Okay. Something like that.

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So we're watching these vehicles right these trucks. Now the thing I was saying on the front of them

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because you know Humvees the military has they have the IR lights on the front and they're the

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headlights that you can drive at nighttime with your knots. So they had the same thing because they

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had the same kind of slits that had the IR lights. But they had a weapon cases in the back of each

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truck bed. And you know that you can store like a couple hundred weapons maybe a hundred weapons

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maybe a platoon a company size element. And it was the same pelican cases that we would use

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to store stuff when they were transporting you know. So very big cases on two of them in each

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truck bed. And then they had a shipping container thing. I mean it looked like a shipping container

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but smaller and half the size. And the thing that was different about this is I had a cylinder on

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the front of it that was towards the truck. It was like parallel to the ground just a cylinder

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right on the top of this thing. And for years I thought okay you know like this got to be

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oxygen supplier or like a vacuum ceiling thing that you would you know because obviously I'm

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thinking it's trucks. It was like okay so it's a very advanced way to do that just the years of

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thinking of this. And come to find out when I gave my speech in DC on that Saturday for the

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disclosure project with Dr. Greer. He's got a lot of people coming out of the work would work by

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the way. And this gentleman I'm not going to give any detail I know a little bit about him

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but he works in some of these projects at very some very controversial facilities.

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He's aware of what was going on. After I gave my presentation of this

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he confirmed he says no he's like I don't want to leave Michael hanging out there but I was

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not expecting to come and talk to you about this. And he went explaining what the operations do

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why they do it and what they were using them for. And he says there's not drugs that they're

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putting the shipping containers. It says it's humans. Human traffic. Yes. His own words. And you know

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of course and he also wants to come forward at least with him and 30 other people that are involved

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with that part of the work. But it was very disheartening to actually get that information

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relayed to me because here I'm thinking for years it's drugs and it's a much sinister thing.

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But it makes sense because they use natural disasters or people are going to be missing anyway.

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Yeah. That's scooped up people. I mean I just I've been covering human trafficking this year.

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Right. And that's you know a lot of the human traffic comes from

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Thoroughbould countries and distress. You're in a Thoroughbould area. Yep.

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And distress right after Earth right after Earthquake will be I mean it's prime. Yeah.

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Prime time to do human trafficking operation. Right. How big were the containers?

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I would say probably eight feet and 10 feet eight feet tall 10 feet with him. So like maybe

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half a conax box about that. Okay. And they were kind of like on the trailer that was underneath

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was kind of like a regular humbry trailer that you would see kind of pulled stuff. Something like that.

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How were they being lifted into the craft? So they were driving onto this platform that was

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angled so it hit and it just raised up and they just driving on this ramp. Oh the truck would go up.

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Yeah, but the whole thing was a ramp. Okay. Like a circular ramp. And I mean I obviously I can't see

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what's on excuse me the other side of it. But I'm assuming because it's a circular pattern that

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is going to be the same on the other side. Because they would drive onto this platform and at that

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point I saw all the doors open four guys would come out and then I'd go back to what we're

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facing here with these guys searching our stuff asking us questions, taking our IDs, trying to

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intimidate the crap out of us. And so I can see the guys come out of the truck. And that was making

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me think too like at a tactical advantage we didn't have that. There's only six of us. Basically

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trained infantry Marines. And there's these guys here that are doing this operation and very skilled,

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very methodical, very calculated, very precise. And if there's eight of them and now all of a

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sudden every single truck has four of these guys. I know that it's not just these guys are running

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a perimeter. They could have been 40 or 30 or 40 people. They've been put in size element.

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And the fact that we have no conceal, barely have any concealment because if we were to run and

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bank off the sides here to go to our flanks, they could just engage us. There's nothing to hide behind.

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Vegetation ain't going to stop bullets, you know. But so there's a lot of questions I have to

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because it's, you know, obviously if we would have engaged them, then the whole rest of the force

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behind us would know about it because they'd heard the commotion. Yeah. How many containers do

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you estimate were put under the craft? Four because that's how four trucks. Four containers.

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And there could have been more, but at that point where we saw, we could have, you know, because

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we stumbled onto this thing. We were in their operation. So to speak, because we weren't allowed

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to see that. Let's talk about the craft. Okay. How big was it? 300 feet is what I'm estimating.

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About a football field. And the reason why I say this is because we flew on on CH 53 super stallions.

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I'm sure you're familiar with those. Your time is a seal. They're roughly a hundred feet. All right.

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So from nose to tail, if you lined up three of them, it fit three of them under this craft because I

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can see, you know, especially the operation behind us, you're kind of same off in the distance. So

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you try to engage, you know, as a marine, you're always trying to judge distance, you know,

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to mean because if you're having to engage, but won't be hold, we end up having the surprise right

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here happen with these guys. But that's how I know it was around 300 feet. Okay. That's a, that's

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a, and it was circular. Circular. It's like an octagon because I had like corners on it that was

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like an octagon shape, but still circular. Could you see was it one smooth piece of metal? No.

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Was it panels? Panels. No. How are they? How just describe more? Whether windows, whether

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there were not windows, nothing I could see like that. Did you just had that Vanta Black vent looking

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things on each corner? So all I saw with that. And it had like an octagon scale pattern that went

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through it. It honestly reminded me kind of like a design for enough 22. Right. Okay. You know,

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I like the top of it kind of looks like that. That's what it kind of reminded me of with the

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cause of a transitional colors. So it's suspect, you know, I've had people have talked to about this

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to say, well, you know, Lockheed Martin has reverse engine or stuff that's circular. Raytheon,

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they have triangular craft. And he said it might have been Lockheed because Lockheed also made

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the F-22. Similar design concept. Now I think about it, right? Because at this time, you

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not really think about it. You're like, I got to a more concern with these guys and who the hell

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they are. So after we witnessed the last truck going on there and we're still dealing with that,

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I got searched already, of course, and I'm just paying attention what's going on and making sure

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my guys are good too. And all of a sudden the trucks we never saw them again, they were not on that

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platform. There was like boxes and stuff that were on that platform. And so I'm assuming they

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drove off on the other side or disappeared or where they went. I don't know. But all of a sudden,

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we noticed that this platform raises off the ground by itself and doesn't make any noise,

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by the way, it doesn't disturb anything. Just before it started gaining elevation. Yeah. How high

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off the ground was this? The actual craft? Yes. I would say probably 20 feet. Okay. Yeah. Good

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distance. And the platform rose up. But I would say like the platform was up several feet,

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right? Probably maybe five, six feet. Because it was looking from the distance probably

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by this pavanage. I mean, I'm just envisioning. I'm envisioning a the way you're describing this,

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some envisioning and octagon, rotating clockwise, whether they drop ramp similar to maybe something

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you would see on the back of a C 130, C 17, but circular, but circular and separate. There's no

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cables. There's no. Okay. Was the ramp attached to the craft? No. So there was just an opening.

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There was just an open like the bottom part of the craft. I was when I'm assuming because that's

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where I saw it lift up and go into. It was like the bottom part. It's like the floor itself was

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like the platform and they were just rolled up, right? But at the same time, the the top part leveled

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a little bit and went down to meet with this. And as that happened, you start to see it rise up

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past the tree line. It's not like a super fast and just rapid. It's just like kind of slow. As

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that's going on, the rotation has not changed. The audible hum has not changed. But it's not like

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somebody hit the gas and you hear different. Yeah, it's nothing like that. It's just just constant.

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Okay. Each point on that octagonal shape started to illuminate colors. Like it was just one color

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per point. It was red, it was green, it was yellow, and it was blue. It was only colors I saw,

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and it was a rotating, right? As soon as it got to the top of the tree line, like clear the trees,

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this thing shot off to the left. And to the left was the ocean, by the way, this was going west.

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How far to the left was the ocean? Probably a good mile and a half maybe. That's it. Yeah,

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was you right on the coast? Yeah. Okay. Probably I would say me, it could be a mile and a half to three

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miles out of the estimate. Because I mean, that's just estimation. I don't really know.

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Because it took us a little bit when we landed into the near-padaing city, because we landed

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an air strip and then we took like a several minute flight going from southwest to like northeast

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part, roughly. So I'd say probably a couple of miles to kind of estimate. And like I said,

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it then changed pitches of noise or anything, and it just completely shot off. I mean, it's just

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like a blur that went left. Didn't make a sonic boom. Like you'd see a fighter jet, we didn't see

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the pressure, the way that that happens. It didn't disturb any of the trees. Like what

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Rotter-Wash would do on a halo or a jet flying the map of the earth and leaving exhaust and blowing

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the, you know, you kind of see top gun movies with a cranks up ocean. Nothing. There were even

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coconuts that you could visibly see on these trees. None of them were disturbed. No shit. Yeah.

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And me, I like aircraft. You know, that was my thing. You know, I wanted to be a pilot, but then

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that happened. I wanted to fly the area. And I know about aircraft. I know everything that we've

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got in order to think about them. You know, from a little kid, that's all I wanted to do. But obviously,

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they're being infantry was the next best thing. So it wasn't something I've never seen before.

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We're all hooked up ready to go. John Masters got his arm up, getting ready to hit me in the back.

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And then we see Shuffle and I'm only one of 12 guys that I jump with every time. He filed a

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classified complaint under oath and the intelligence committee inspector general said that he found

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the complaint urgent and credible. A guy from the back shuffles his way to the front and has one of

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the escorts. He is unmistakable. I get a knock at the door. It's that same guy who cut me out of the

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door. Hands me a note. He said, thinking of you, he's like, hey, sorry about your loss, buddy.

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I think it gives weight to a lot of the people that have come forward and talked about having

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direct firsthand experience. To me, it just felt like somebody looking you dead in the eye

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and said, I can touch you anytime I want. Well, when was the assassination attempt? So we go inside,

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meet another escort in there. Take us to this freight elevator. One of the guys looks at my dad

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and it's saying to both of us, keep your head down. The eyes on the hills and the man in front of you

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or you'll be shot. What could somebody threaten you with to make you turn your back on your own child?

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So as that took off, we're all set in order to face that slope that we came down. And like I said,

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it's not very high up. I mean, it's high enough to obscure everything to kind of go down in the valley.

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And so as we turn around, like, fuck, they're going to do it. I think they were just going to,

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you know, fucking rip us right there. Yeah. And they're going to kill you. Yeah.

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Was that, I mean, it's like, when you, when, before we get to that,

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when you saw this thing take off, I mean, do you have any estimation of speed? If you've seen anything,

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I mean, was it faster than anything you've seen before? Was it a normal speed? No, it was,

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it was faster. It was the fastest thing I've ever seen. I would say probably four, five thousand

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miles an hour. I mean, it was, it was intense. It was just like a left of blur. Okay. You know,

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like a jet screen and by going as fast as it possibly could, you can still make the shape of it and

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still lock your eyes on to it as it's going. There's no way in hell you could lock your eyes onto

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this thing as it's moving. That's how fast it was. Okay. And I say, you know, something moving your

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eyes are naturally going to pick up that motion. And this didn't do that. I mean, it was just like,

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just left a very fast blur. And like I said, I've never seen anything like that the way that it

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moved the way that didn't make any sound completely, you know, didn't change pitch of the

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homer anything like that. Did it go at an upward angle? Was it a straight line? It just looked like a

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straight line from what I couldn't see, you know, I mean, it just, it wasn't like it went up in

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the sky or anything. It was just like, I'm over the trees. I was gone. Okay. So yeah, I mean, you know,

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knowing aircraft and things like that, it just wasn't something normal. Something completely

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faster or something doesn't make any sound. I mean, ray or signature, I have no idea, you know,

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but there's theories that maybe the design of it could not reflect radar signals. I mean, I don't

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know how that go. I'm not, you know, I don't work in that project or anything like that. But it's

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just something that's very odd to see. Very, very alarming. Did the lights stay on as it

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yes took off? Yeah. But you can even see the blurs of lights even. It was just this black blur

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that just left. Yeah. I mean, it was creepy. It was, it was fucking creepy to see. And, you know,

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of course, we're like dumbfounded because you never seen anything like this. And this is like some

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Hollywood shit, you know, make the ships from Independence. They look like a joke, you know,

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how fast this thing was. So it was, it was very, very, very weird to see that. And like I said,

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as we were ordered to turn towards the slope that we came down. And that's what I thought it was

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it. I thought they were going to smoke us, you know, and they kept saying that, you know, we're

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just, we can kill you right now. You know, there as, as this is going on, they're talking shit,

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they're looking at us or taking pictures, they're doing, you know, everything that they're trying

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to do clear us. So as we turn this and all of a sudden, I see a sling pass over my head. I'm like,

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oh, fuck, they're going to strangle me. And it wasn't the case. They actually tightened it so well

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that when they placed it and, you know, it's crossbody. And obviously the buttstock of the rifle

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is up on the right shoulder and the muzzle is kind of more towards your left. And they tightened

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the sling so well that if you try to get it off, it's going to struggle, right? And they started putting

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the magazines in and they put all six of them on our vest, but they put it in a way that was

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intact. They put them like right side up where you can see the brass, right? Because brass to the

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grasses is usually what we always train them rains to do. So you just take it out, pop it in,

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boom, right? And they did in the case of be tactical, it wouldn't be a tactical advantage to do that.

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So by the time you get your weapon off, try to put a magazine in and charge it, you're already going

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to get smoked. Yeah. So you were standing up when they did this? Yes. Yep. And why I saw that sling

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come over. I mean, I was like, fuck, I thought they're going to strangle me. Were they talking to you

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as they were doing this? Yes. That's when I was saying they're going to, you know, smoke us,

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they're going to kill us. They could shoot us, you know, leave us here to die, stuff like that.

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Why do you think they were doing? I mean, it sounds like they're taunting on us. They were, and I

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think, you know, my personal parents, I think they wanted, I think they really wanted to kill us.

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But if they made any, I mean, because they didn't have suppressors, you know, they had M4A4s,

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they had like the high speed set up. They had actual A-cogs. They had the honeycombs on them. They

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had the PEC 16s, which is step up from what we had. They had steel magazines. Their weapons

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like they were brand new. Did they have nods? No. They have ball caps though. Ball caps? Yep.

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They had no insignias. Nothing that was signified. What their rank was. Nothing that was signified.

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What branch if they were. There's nothing to identify. And, you know, law enforcement agencies

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have typically tried to be uniform with all blocks. You can't really identify who they are specifically.

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And it's like how these guys were doing the same thing. Because I know in AOs, at least where you

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have friendly, you want to identify who's what. Because that's how you're going to coordinate

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between everybody, you know, who's friendly it was not. So if you're having to do anything like

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airstrikes, close air support, caszy backs, you know what to say and what they look like. Paint

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the picture for what you're getting into to provide the people that intel. And these guys were just

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uniform block. Ball caps and it's just, you know, it's very obvious that these guys didn't want to be

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identified, but they had American dialects. They had American lingo similar to what Marines would

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use or at least military. So that's why my suspicion is I think that these guys at one point were

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uniform military. And maybe they got swept in this program, whatever it is. Could you see their faces?

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I did. They had three of them. They guys had facial hair, right? Kind of stubble. Some of them kind of

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look not really long beards, but like an operator look, you know what I mean? Yeah. Rest of the guys

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didn't. Some of them had kind of blonde hair. At least that you can see from right here. Some of

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them had like black hair and then just regular white complexion. Some of them had blue eyes,

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some of my brown eyes. And I think one guy that I saw had, he was the one that was mainly focused

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in on us as we were getting searched. And you can see I kind of like grish blue eyes.

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So I don't, you know, I don't know what military force. I mean, obviously it's not conventional.

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Yeah. Because you know, the question if they ever come out and they decide to, if they decide

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to ever do this. And say, I was there with these guys, I would have a question. The question would

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be, why did you let us go? Or what were you guys thinking? Or why were you guys doing this for the

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matter? Because this isn't something that, you know, me consciously, there's a lot of things

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especially finding out that this happens to do with human trafficking. Morely, I could never do

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that. Yeah. That's a touchy subject for me. They might not know. Yeah. And that's just it too.

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I mean, they could have. I mean, maybe the guys in the trucks were more of the darker side of

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things that we're doing the hands on. And these guys with securities, I mean, there's so many theories

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with this. You know, I've seen some flack on on Reddit about this. And you got all these armchair

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quarterbacks like, oh, I wouldn't have surrendered my weapon. Oh, yeah. So you get pulled over by a cop.

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And he's got his gun drawn in because you know, there's some people that that's their

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interaction with police because they're known to be violent people. The cop is not going to take

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any chances. They're going to pull out their side arm and they're going to approach the vehicle

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like this till you get the fuck out. Right? Are you going to chance anything of this guy shooting

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you if he's holding you a gunpoint? No. No, you got kids. You got what you got a wife. You know,

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you got a bunch of stuff to live for. I know these Marines are the same thing. But it's always these

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people who are going to talk to this shit who are not there. Because I know for a fact that I'm

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here today talking to you about this. I was here, you know, talking to the Pentagon and talking

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all these other people about this to testify to them and tell them what happened. And I'm glad that,

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you know, I'd rather get the flack and the half to sit there and actually whatever story they would

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have spun up to say that, you know, maybe one Marine got PTSD or something decided to kill his

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own squad and then kill himself. I mean, whatever they would have spun it to be. If these guys have

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this kind of technology and these resources, they can do anything. Yeah. They're above the law

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clearly. So as they gave us our stuff back and we're going up this slope, they're still talking

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shit. They're still saying, you know, we could kill you. Don't fucking look back and we're going to

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smoke you. So as soon as we went on the top and all of a sudden we didn't, you know, they weren't

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pursuing us and we fucking high-tailed it. We ran down this fucking slope, trying not to trip

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over shit. Go to the LZ and there were still helicopters flying. You know, they were flying relatively

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low with this, the shipments that they had that were attached and then they were landing, dropping

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the stuff off and then they were taken off, right? And they were just coming and going back and forth.

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There was a gun resurger there that was not in my unit. I think he was attached to the ship.

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He might have been kind of like their logistical support unit or whatever it is for because I know

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each ship has a logistical support for Marines, right? They're on the ship either at the security

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or wherever it is. There was a gun resurger there and he was like fucking pissed because we showed

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back up and we weren't supposed to and then we had our weapons, you know, so where were we conditioned for?

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You know, we try to play dumb. So obviously we kind of like set up a perimeter and then we adjusted

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ourselves. Some of my guys, you know, they'd help us get our stuff on slung and then we'd load

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it back up and you know, act like everything was normal, but I can tell everybody's faces were like,

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what the fuck? Very, very concerning stuff and here's the thing though, if stuff is still going on

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to the state, which I'm sure it is because if they're, you know, you come to find out, and I know you

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probably know this human trafficking is the biggest revenue generator for these guys, for these

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organizations, second, drugs, third, weapons. So if they're hitting all three and obviously they're

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not going to want to give up their operations being known for that because it's illegal. It's not

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going to sit very well in the public eye. There are a lot of people have children. I don't have,

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I personally don't have kids, but I know you as a dad would not fucking stand for that kind of

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shit because then you have the thought in your head that it's going to be my kids are going to end

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up like this that potentially could. It's not a very comfortable thing people realize. And having

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them known to see this happen, it sucks. And this is kind of more why I'm pressing towards getting

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the resolution done with this to make the government aware of it because if that's going on,

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it's got to be stopped. That's some evil, that's some evil nature right there. And I can't believe

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that there are actually people participating in this. And if they know about it, fucking shame on them.

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Yeah, you know, it's, it's, it's very interesting. There are two subjects that I really wanted to

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dive into this year is fascinated with the UFO UAP genre. And I want to expose as much as possible.

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The stuff about human trafficking and everything that goes into it. We've already started that. And

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to see these two arenas start to intertwine is, I mean, it's very alarming. It tells you how much

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money is being spent. And it tells you that there's companies here that the government doesn't know

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about they're participating in this. Yeah. And it's not even, you know, something that happens in

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the United States. It may, you know, it definitely does. But to see the operation because think about

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it, it's a, it's perfect cover because let's say if you're hiking somewhere out here and you see

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that unfold and you try to call the police and try to call, you know, federal, state, local agencies,

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or even the military for that matter to try to report this. Are they going to take you serious? No.

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They wouldn't. I mean, it's, it's becoming more, more common. Yes.

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Time will go on. But yeah, it's, you know, what's, you know, it sucks about this is we're in this,

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we're in this time period where everybody knows not, I guess, not everybody, but it seems everybody

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that I know knows that the media is false. It's fake. They don't report everything. They lie.

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No, they don't, you know, and, and, and, but at the same time, a lot of people won't put any

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validation or trust in anything that hasn't been covered by mainstream media. So we're in like this

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time period where there's, there's, there's a transition happening. There is. And it's thanks to

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people like you. And I'm glad that there's people with me doing this too that, you know,

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it's easy for, for people to sit there and try to judge what they would have done in situations.

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And the bottom line is, is we have gotten a point in our life. And I don't mean us specifically,

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but I mean the rest of the world, where they get so disturbed with things, but they don't do

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anything about it. They want other people to do it. Well, I'm unhappy with the situation.

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We're fucking changer or help change it. That's what we're trying to do. We're trying to get the

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war out there. We're trying to get the government, at least the right parts of the government to do

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something about this. And, you know, among other things that you see with corruption, you know,

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for example, you talk about the media. Like I was a security, at least for my private security firm

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for the Americas, frontline doctors in Washington, DC. They came to talk to President Trump about

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COVID not being as serious as what the media is trying to say it is. They said that vaccinations

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are not something required to beat this. There were time on natural immunity. They were talking

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about all the things that we already knew when people were getting silence for it. And I'm seeing

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these doctors, especially doctors from a gold, you know, so they try to wrap her up because she

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was part of the January 6th thing. But she actually really nice lady. But she's explained to us how

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everything worked because they took us out to dinner, you know, try to try to thank us. And it was

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very cool to network with these people. And then all of a sudden you go after the event and you start

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seeing the news articles pop up about these people. And it's completely defamation. It's completely

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stuff that's not even related. You know, and it's one of those things that it sucks to see because

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their lives were ultimately ruined for speaking out about the truth. But here's the thing. There

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comes great risk to stuff. My life doesn't get lavish because of what I'm doing today and what I've

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been doing. It becomes hell. I've had numerous encounters with fucking helicopters. However,

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over my house, they were hovering over my dad's house. They get so low where they rattle the walls,

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scare the shit out of the animals that we've got. You know, his dogs were going fucking crazy at that

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point. And he was concerned because he was home and he was like, I've never heard anything like that.

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So, you know, having I've taken videos of this too, but seeing black,

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oxy and regular black helicopters that don't even have any signatures on them, nothing. And

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they're just sitting there. But the thing about it that is at least

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noticeable about this. And it's just kind of a there's a hysterical factor to this. How much money

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they're fucking spending on this to happen to try to either intimidate me or anybody else for

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that matter. There's some elected officials and even some government officials. I know they're

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having the same thing happen to them because they've told me about it personally through our

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encrypted source of what we talk about. So they instructed me that any time to something like this

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happens that I could record it, take pictures because they'll see the timestamps of everything

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taken and let them know the time and don't investigate it because they can have access to the FAA

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systems and among other systems that I can actually relay where these people are going. They can

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listen into their comms, you know, because I have to guide through the FAA air traffic, you know,

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where they're going. I live by the airport in Denver. And the airspace there is restricted because

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they have airplanes that are flying, you know, every directions to try to, you know, passenger

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airliners or whatnot. So it's not a normal flight path for helicopters. That's what stuck out to me.

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They were doing it in my place of business where they fly over, they'd stop and then, you know,

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they would bank off my dad's house, they get low, you know, enough. It's just, you know, it doesn't

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become glamorous by speaking about this. And you have people maybe that you've met through

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when you testified in front of the intelligence committee that are helping you, they're telling you,

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hey, record this, do you stamp it? Let us know any information you can possibly get reporting.

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Because they said they'll look into it because they know, I mean, in several of them are having to

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deal with this personally. Is this happening to any of the other whistleblowers that you know?

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I know it happens that Dr. Greer all the time. Okay. I, other whistleblowers, I'm not sure.

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It's not something that, you know, maybe they do notice, maybe because you're hypervigilant with

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what's going on. Because I mean, with what we're doing is putting us in a spotlight, but it's also

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putting the fucking crosshairs on, on to us. And the only thing I'm thankful is coming public with

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this information, at least if something does happen. And I'm not going to rule that out. But if

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anything does happen, and it kind of proves what we're talking about, be true. And the reason being

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is because they would not be going through these measures to try to intimidate for no reason.

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Yeah. We're keeping people up at night because of what we're talking about. And that needs to happen.

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So, you know, and I've even told these government officials in the United of May meetings, I've

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like first and foremost, you guys need to understand something. I am in a right state of mind to do this.

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I don't feel like harming myself. I don't feel like, you know, because everybody makes the

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joke of abstaining and kill himself. No way in shape of form related to that, right? And so same goes

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here. Like I don't, I have no means to harm myself. So if anything happens, it's not from me.

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Well, thanks for saying that. Well, yeah, I mean, that needs to be on record and people need to

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understand that because if something does, it's not because I, you know, I turn a gun on myself for

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anything like this. Specifically, I'm going to talk about something. El Toro,

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Rincor Air Station, El Toro, I'm sure you're familiar with what that was on California.

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There was a kernel there that was, they didn't even know that this was going on on his base.

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They, but they were flying flights in that had drugs on them. And they were unloading

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out on his base and he found out about it. So he went to question them. Two days later, they find

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them dead. Really? Yep. And this is on record anywhere. Yes, it is. You can google this

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information, put Marine Corcoranal Suicide, El Toro. Okay. You can pull this out. Anybody

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of these viewers can do that too. The family thought it was very alarming because the circumstances.

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So they did a second opinion for an autopsy. And they said that there was extreme blunt force

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trauma to this head, which killed him. But then they had gunshot wounds. So there's a shotgun

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that were supposed to stay to look like a suicide. And so I'm glad that the family actually got

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the second opinion to say no, it was blunt force trauma. The back of the head was what killed him.

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And they tried to make it look like a suicide. And this is a kernel. And this thing that sucks about

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this is the Marine Corcoranal self actually tried to use this as a tool to say, you know what?

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Suicide awareness is such a big thing and it happens with every rank and they were using this guy

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for this purpose. But obviously you start delving into this information and seeing that, you know,

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the reports that he was making about these illegal flights coming in and they were unloading drugs.

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I mean, clearly these guys, it doesn't matter what rank you are, it doesn't matter what position

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in government you have, it doesn't matter what you do for a living. If you're going against what they're

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exposing what they're doing, they're going to get you. So if something does happen, I'm just

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putting it out there that it's not from my own doing. I don't fucking piss anybody. It may be

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the business world to a degree, but it's not enough for them to sit there and do something like that.

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And I'm glad that I have a private security firm where I've got some guys who look out for my best

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interest and they know what I'm doing. So they've got my back realistically speaking.

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And you know, and that's the thing too is any other whistleblowers who are, you know,

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because I urge other people to come out. If they're needing protection on a way, I'll help with that.

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I'll orchestrate, but two, the other thing is two coming out in the fashion that we did

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was the best because now they're right people in the government know. So it's almost like

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having a pit bull that's one to rip you to fucking shreds, but you have this fence that's between you

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and this pit bull. And I feel like the government's going to be that fence in the long with the

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spotlight that this put me in. Yeah. Because it's unsettling to sit there and see these helicopters.

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Man, it's just it's hysterical. You sit there and wave on, but it's like keep wasting your

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fucking money. Let's talk about the debrief that happened afterwards. Yes. What happened when you

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got back to your command? So when we got back under the ship, we ended up returning our weapons

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of the armory, went to our birthing, put our gear away, went back to the flight deck. There was

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this admiral there. I've never seen him before. I don't know who he is, but it's just very out of

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place. He gave a debrief saying, Hey, this was good that you guys are doing for these people,

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which I agree with. But I have no idea who he was, but you know, I've been on six ships.

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He did several humanitarian operations. And not once have I've ever seen an admiral on any of them.

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You know, and this was minor compared to the one in 2011 we did with Fukushima. And that natural

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disaster never seen an admiral with that, right? So it's just very out of place. So we went to after

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we concluded this operation, we ended up docking a subig bay for some liberty. This is just like four

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days. So the people that we encountered during that event didn't even bother to take my camera

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and anything was in my dumb pouch, but it was small enough. So I don't know why they wouldn't have

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searched it, but they missed it, right? So here I am the whole time thinking like, fucking,

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I've got something. I'm not fucking crazy. Neither of us are crazy. But we've got something to

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actually backs up if we're to tell anybody about this. And we can show them pictures of it off

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of a camera and not something like a computer screen where they can doctor it. Well, I spoke to

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soon because when we end up going out that that first day, we came back to report back to the ship.

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And I saw my camera on my rack. And the memory card was out of it. And it was a big memory card.

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And the battery was out of it. And I just see the camera sent him like, what the fuck?

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So I checked my locker. It was secure because it's where I had it. And I had some stuff on top of

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the camera in there, you know, in my locker that went top of the camera. And I had another battery

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in there. So I took that battery and I put it in there and then wouldn't even turn the fuck on.

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And I had some people reach out to me that said, you know, if you had that camera still to this day

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that they could do some data retrieval, maybe able to pick it up. I'm like, but I don't have that camera.

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You know, I tossed it because the fact that one name turned on and one didn't do anything,

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like, fuck, it's just a paperweight. And of course 2009, you're not thinking of anything with forensics

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where they could do something. There was people actually willing to do that, which is great. So

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somewhere out there, somebody's got this footage. Somebody's got that tape because of some reason

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why they took it. And fun fact is that the other five Marines that were with me, they had their

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phones taken. Did you look at the pictures before? Did you have a chance to look at the pictures?

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I know I took pictures and videos of it because I saw the record thing and I actually can snap the

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photos and you can see like it blink. So I know for a fact, but you didn't go back and review them.

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Okay. No. No. Why not? Why not? I didn't see it when anybody's seen. Okay. Just for that reason,

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you know, it was just something to keep, you know, if anybody doesn't know about it, then

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if I start telling people, then obviously there's things that may happen. And of course it did

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happen regardless because as soon as we're out in town, all these people, you know, I don't know who

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was who did this, by the way, but they didn't even cut my lock. They popped it off somehow because they

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read, you know, my lock was still intact. So these guys are obviously know how to do it. And I don't

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know who was, but all of a sudden the other Marines had their stuff taken to. And anybody in the platoon,

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they didn't have any other stuff. Touch. It was only us that were there. Did they take anything else?

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No. No. So after we get done with that, we end up going back to Okinawa, right? And I'm, you know,

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this is a regular normal day. It's probably fast forward a month after we end up getting back.

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I'll send a duty Marine knocks on my door and says, you need to report up to CP, like,

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Roger that. So I get my cover, run downstairs, run over, and there's nobody there.

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They're like, what's fucking weird? Now the sudden, like I go inside and there's like this big

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open in this office and then have like these little offices that have these doors they can walk

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into. So all of a sudden I'm greeted by somebody in Air Force dress blues and you don't have a cover on,

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but he had the salt and pepper hair, white complexion, older gentleman. He didn't have a name tag on

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his uniform, which come to find out Air Force regulations states that you have to have a name tag on

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your uniforms. You know, Marine Corps, we don't do that unless it's our camouflage or if you're a

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drill instructor or some kind of instructor or some sort of bill that requires you to do that.

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So he calls me over and I go over, give him the property of the day and then he tells me go ahead and

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sit down over here in this office. So I sit down and he's just he doesn't bother to sit down.

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He's just you though. Wasn't the other five Marines know they end up having the same thing happen,

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but this guy did separately. It's all individual. Yes. Okay. It wasn't all together. So he told us again

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with what you guys saw, you were not allowed to report this, you're not allowed to talk about

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tell your family, not to your chain of command. I don't care if a general even asks you.

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You can go to prison for this. You could be executed. And if you want to chance that by all means,

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but you need to sign this. So I take the paper and I'm looking at it and it's not a disclosure agreement.

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The only two things I can recall to this day is that it said TSSCI and it said Indonesian.

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There's only things I could recall, but I skim through it and I fucking sign it because here I am

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thinking, okay, we're just going to forget about this whole fucking ordeal. And yet this is getting

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thrown in our face and here's somebody threatening our fucking lives here with, you know, prison

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and death, things like that, if we're to talk about this. Did you ask him any questions?

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I try to ask him who he was and he didn't say anything. There's some speculation going on

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about this because people who know about this, whether it's other whistleblowers and other people

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have came for previously, have said that these guys have the ability to impersonate or even play

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off as their military officials or anybody for that matter in the government to try to extract

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information to see what you know. So I'm not, you know, because it's odd that he didn't have a

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name tag. The only thing I can tell is that he had a stack of ribbons, you know, Air Force gives

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ribbons a mouse for just about anything, but he had silver jump wings. This is the only thing I

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can recall. So other people I've talked to in the military community are still active just trying

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to get information. And now they know because I've came out, they're saying that if it was an

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Air Force officer that has to do with some Air Force intelligence because a lot of them had

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jump wings and that's kind of the thing that they like to do. He says because he didn't have any

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pilot wings or nothing, I was saying if I was a pilot, it was just those silver jump wings.

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Yeah. Just with the parachute and I had the wreath that come up like this. That's the only thing

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and obviously he had the silver oak leaves on his shoulders. But so after dealing with that, it's

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like okay, signed it. I'm like great, you know, just fucking leave it behind. Rest of my career.

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Don't tell anybody about it, you know, didn't tell my family. I told my dad before I end up

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going and getting out to do any of the reserves. I said, you know, there's something I got to tell

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you. And he even told me this, you know, when I started coming out publicly about it and after I

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had gotten through the right part of the government to go ahead and proceed with this,

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and now he understands what I was trying to tell him because I said I just have to wait for

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the right time to do this because I don't know. I'm kind of freaked out, you know, it's something and

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at that point in 2017, it's when I met Dr. Greer and then fast forward to recently in April,

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making this happen with the government and telling them and testifying and briefing them what's

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going on. You know, so the fact that I'm seeing with this is, you know, there was a guy apparently

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it was a Marine that came out with Dr. Greer. It was like more than 10 years ago. I think it was

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then was Joshua or something like that. And he was a stinger operator. So he was like an anti-air

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gunner. If you want to call it that, I don't know the MOS. But apparently, he was in South America and

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he witnessed a crash retrieval. And so he stated the same thing, this paramilitar organization.

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Kind of looked very similar. Obviously, this was in the 90s, so they didn't look that dissimilar

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to what I saw. But he talked to paramilitar organization. He talked about the noise that this

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craft made that he saw that was shot down had a hole in it. So it was a guitar amp because it's

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only way to describe it. If it's reverse engineered, it's going to mimic the same kind of technology

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that these actual crafts have. Right? This paramilitarization, well, yes, that's how they operate. They're

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not going to be identified in any kind of way. It's going to be a generic black uniforms and gear.

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So of course, and you know, everybody's like, oh, at least they're reddit that I'm saying. And

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they said, oh, they're a force of tenor colonel. Okay, that's another thing. And it probably wasn't

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the same guy, but the same method. There's only one word that comes to that. It's called corroboration.

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And it's not the first time that this guy's saying it is not the first time that other people have

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said this, but the thing is people when you pay attention to them when stuff's thrown in their face,

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such as what I'm doing and what these other people are doing. There's going to be people who are

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going to come out after me who are going to talk about the same thing. I know I'm not the only one.

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And maybe you can get one of my Marines that were there to actually come forward and maybe, you know,

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ideally it'd be all of them, but I know how this goes. And one guy responded when I had

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these government officials in Dr. Greer trying to bring one of them forward. And he said absolutely

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not. He said a text message saying, it's not worth the risk to my family, my life, my career,

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because he's still in the military. He's a commission officer now. And he was very repetitive about

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that. And he says, don't ever ask me to do this shit again. And you need to get the fuck out of

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whatever you're in. But it's the response. And when I asked him to do this, and that's where he

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responded to, what else could it be? Yeah. So in a sense, that kind of corroborates it, but it

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corroborates the seriousness of how they're in fear of their life. Yeah. The other guy, I didn't hear

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from anything. And even taking my social media down because after I started coming forward,

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I just want people blowing out my fucking inbox is trying to ask me details or questions or try

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to get interviews. You know, I'm not about that. I'm not, you know, the fact that our lives are

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kind of coming to hell to a degree because of being pursued with these helicopters and things like

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that. There's other ramifications that may happen that I'm not aware of. But you know what,

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there's a risk to things. And that's how this is going to happen. And if that's what's chosen,

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then I just got to figure out how to mitigate that as well. Well, let's talk about we had spoken

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offline a little earlier about all the media that's reached out. I know you had an article in the

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Daily Mail. Daily Mail. And then obviously the other facets related, Daily Mail published this.

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Well, they misconstrued a lot of that. And then I end up going in from David Grush to Bash and

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Dr. Greer about it. So it was something that they tried to use like to get people's attention

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and they go into this fucking narrative. You know, I've had news nation. I've had CNN. I've had

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MSNBC that reached out through LinkedIn through other emails, you know, because there's my email

[1:17:06 - 1:17:11] ▶

gets blasted all over the place these days. And I've got four emails. So I get the fucking shitty

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one I hand out to people because I don't want to get spammed through my business emails because

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that's money that's sitting on a table of need be. And I decline every single one of them because I

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know that they're going to push this false narrative. Then false narratives that they're evil ET's

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and this is what David Grush is pushing now saying that, you know, they're malevolent and they seem

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ET's die or your 30 T's kill people and things like that. Well, first and foremost, if there is a

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species of extraterrestrial that's out there and they happen to be fucking malevolent, it's not

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wise to shoot their shit down or kill any of them because guess what? These they're highly advanced.

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And they can make this kind of stuff. Imagine what they can do if they weaponize it. You know, so it's

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something that, you know, this needs to stop because all it's doing is this pepper, it's just

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portraying fear out to people. Yeah. They did this with COVID. You see the response of that.

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If people are still living this what and living like COVID exists to this day, which it probably does,

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but it's not nearly as damaging as what people are saying. It wasn't as bad as it was hyped up.

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No, it wasn't. And you still have people fucking fray their lives. And this is the thing that is sad to

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see that. So this whole, another people are thinking about this going on. Now that all of some

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worst cases going to happen, it's just this whole fear of being portrayed in the media to try to

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scare the shit out of people. Either get ratings or try to get people tuned into their networks.

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It's just ridiculous. It's more, you know, it's more of a personal game for them because they get

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money off of views. So now that you've set the record straight, do you think you'll go on any of

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these media outlets? No. No. I'm not looking to get fucking famous from this dude. I just want to get

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this information out. They're saying, and I've had people try to approach me with book deals and

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shit like that. Like get the fuck out of here. This is nothing to do with trying to get money. This

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is trying to make sure that this is I'm not trying to convince the public here. And I'm getting

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that on record too. This isn't trying to convince the fucking public that this is real. I'm trying to

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convince the government. And thankfully, they are convinced enough to actually do something about

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it. That's my main objective with this. Because when they come out and they start talking about the

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bills that they're talking about, legislations, because people like me standing up,

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oh, my other whistleblowers coming out and talking about the same kind of corroboration,

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that there's man-made stuff going on that there's nefarious activities going on behind the scenes

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that nobody knows about. And they're making money illegally and they're murdering or killing

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people doing it. I'm glad you're doing it. I'm glad too, man. It scares the shit out of me. I wake

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up every day on shore like what the fuck's going to happen, but that's where you had to take a day

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by day. And at the end of the day, there's people looking out for me, which is great in the government

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and spiritually as well. Good. You know, and that's where I'm going to thrive with this, because

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guess what? If they can silence me, but they can't silence the fucking truth. And they've been

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trying to silence the truth for far too long. And it needs to stop. And there's anybody whistleblowers

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too. This is the thing I'm going to urge. Anybody who has any information with this, whether they

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witness somewhere things with this, whether you're in the opposite spectrum. If you're anybody who's

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working in these programs, and others people who are listening to you show about this by the way,

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who are probably on that side of the coin, fucking man up and come to fuck out. You've got to stop

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the bullshit. And anybody who knows about this, well, guess what? If you know the truth and you're

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not revealing it, then you're complicit to it too. So I'm urgent. Get ahold of me. I mean,

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I'll throw my email if you can put that link in. And most of all, get ahold of Dr. Greer.

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I'll put that link in there. Okay. But yeah, Dr. Greer, I mean, he's been a good resource.

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And people need to understand just like you not understand with this. He is basically a sounding

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word for all of us who have coming forward. And all he's doing is relaying information that he

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knows from people. He's got a strict vetting process with this. I know people are going to test

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that as whistleblowers. The fact is he's not just going to take anybody's word because he asked

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somebody said something, right? I talked to him. I just interviewed him. As you know, and I asked him

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how did he decipher who the bullshitters are from the real ones. And we went into that because I

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think that's extremely important. Yes, it is. He's just not taking anybody's word for it.

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Yeah. I mean, he asked me repeatedly, you know, in law enforcement, especially, you know,

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the tactics they use as they ask the similar questions, and especially the meaning I had with

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the Pentagon and all these other agencies, it's like they asked the same thing because they do

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they do interrogations on a daily basis. But the fact is my story is not going to fucking change.

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The way that I'm doing details is not going to change. My simple task with this is just to tell

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people what happened. Good. That's it. I'm not trying to gain profit. I don't want to be fucking famous.

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The only thing I'm going to be famous for this, the only thing I want to be famous for is,

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oh, that's kind of fucking stood up and wasn't afraid to do it. And he got the truth out there.

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Good for you. If I can fucking live with that, perfect by all means.

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Well, Michael, I know it takes a lot of courage to do what you're doing, man. And I just,

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I commend you for it. And it's an honor to have you in here. Sean, thank you, man. And what you're

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doing on your networks or podcasts, your YouTube, I mean, you have a big, big audience. And I hope,

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you know, I get people trying to poke holes, go for it. I don't give a fuck what they think.

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They weren't fucking there with me. They weren't there with my Marines. They want to talk shit,

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go for it. I got one last question. Yeah. If you could say anything to the other five Marines that

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were on the ground with you that day, because they might be watching. What would you say to them?

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Don't fucking leave me hanging, guys. And don't leave me hanging. You know, we're family. We're

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fucking brothers. We went through this shit. You know, and I get that you're, you're, you got

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family. I get that you got kids. I get, you know, moving on. But fuck, man, I mean, you see what I'm

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trying to do with this. And I'm just trying to get the truth. You know, I hope that they do. And if I

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can't get them to come out and at least understand that, you know, there may be some aspects that are

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uncomfortable. You know, with what I'm having to deal with. But it's just the reality of things. It's

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not pretty. But if you got the fucking balls to do it, you know, I don't have kids, you know, me,

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I still got a lot to lose at the end of the day. And I know they do too. But the fact is I'm just sick

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and tired of people bitching about things and not doing anything about it. Me too. And it's all a

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bunch of talk in this fucking world. It's all a bunch of talk. It's all I see on social media. It's

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when I'm glad I'm off of that. You know what I mean? It's when I'm glad I'm off because guess what?

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I don't get to see that anymore. I get to focus on what I'm trying to do. And for me, having people

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reach out to me that have open minds and are like, you know, what I actually heard about something

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like this happening in Vietnam, where they like, I heard about this happening in 2004. And then

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there's people who are coming out that are participating in these operations, unknowingly, because they

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think the constitutionality of its legal. I mean, it's not. And that's why this has happened. And

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because these people think that at the end of the day, they're doing something that's over-sought.

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And they don't know that degree. It's very compartmentalized as, you know, being a CIA.

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You know, they only know what they're told. And they won't know what they're briefed on and

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whether loud to have access to depends on what they're doing. That's how they keep it secret.

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Yes, they do. And not everybody's going to know that. You know, so I hope that anybody who's in

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those industries understands that, you know, if there's anything that seems off, you know, don't

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approach at how that guy that was at the Pentagon that talked about US forces being involved in

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Ukraine. I'm sure you heard about that because you saw FBI HRT Raid his house and took him to

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custody. And he's probably going to sit in prison for the rest of his life because of revealing

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classified information on these platforms. Yeah. I'm not doing that. And these guys that are with

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me that are doing this, they're not doing it either. And the thing is is because he did not way

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means it's illegal because it's classified material to a degree. It may be illegal, but

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he screwed that up. Now, the way that we approach it was because we contacted the government and

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said, Hey, this is what I know. This is what I was subject to. And they were, of course, because I

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approach it in a right way, they're going to reward you with the protection with the law that they

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passed to make sure that you are well protected regardless of what happens in their legal fashion.

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So these other whistleblowers need to understand that. So they can come forward.

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They're going to have the same protections. That's why I can paint them a picture and tell them

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what to expect. I can point them in the direction of who they need to talk to. You know, and just

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the humanity needs to understand that this false narrative that's going to be portrayed in the media

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such as alien invasions and stuff like that. It's been planned since the 50s. There's documentation

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talking about this as far as SAIC or science applications and national corporation talks about

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the stagecraft. You know, honestly, if you're somebody who's such a high, high developed species

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or something like that, it's like walking by ants. Are you going to fuck with them? No, you're just

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like, there's fucking ants. They just want to buy it. They're like the same thing that they do with us.

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Yeah. Why are they going to fucking try to fuck with us? But the same thing, we all of a sudden

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start shooting them down and then reverse engineering their stuff and then trying to weaponize it and

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then we're using it against each other. For the various activities, trying to use the fucking,

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you know, these advanced projects to do very illegal, very dangerous stuff. It's just it blows my

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mind how much this goes down. You know, I just, my goal is just to hopefully get this fucking changed.

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Well, I hope it does. Me too, Bart. We'll be praying for it. Thank you. Cheers.

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