Transcript: Deep Underground Military Bases (D.U.M.Bs.) - UFO Legacy Programs

When discussing UFO legacy programs, I aim to expose any clandestine black budget U.S. government

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military intelligence operation, partnering with defense contractors, federally funded

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research and development centers, and university affiliated research centers engaging with non-human

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technology. These programs seem to take many forms, including crash recovery of non-human vehicles,

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material exploitation of technologies of unknown origin, reverse engineering of anomalous craft,

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and construction of copycat vehicles famously known as alien reproduction vehicles ARVs.

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On this channel, we have discussed myriad major range and test facility bases and defense

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laboratories and centers where such programs are likely located. We have also discussed at length

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contractors, FFRDCs, and UARCs that are alleged to operate alongside the CIA and NSA across

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Army, Navy, and Air Force UFO programs. When such clandestine and secretive operations to master

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non-human technology have led to, in David Grush's words, a multi-decade secret cold war,

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where might these programs be located? The logistics of maintaining secrecy and strict need to know

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access for unacknowledged special access programs focused on anomalous research, development,

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test, and evaluation of non-human technologies, and storage of non-human craft and possibly biologics

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are likely tremendous. For this reason, we must look underground and evaluate the decades of rumors

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and testimonies of UFOs and deep underground military bases or dums. Dums have served as a

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continuous focus of this channel with recent discussion and direct investigation into

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Dugway Proving Ground. The United States premier chemical and biological testing range and it's

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alleged 1300 square mile subterranean facility and remote entrance in the desert.

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For this investigation, we will be continuously referencing the work of Dr. Richard Sotter and his

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three masterpieces titled, Underground Bases and Tunnels, What is the Government Trying to Hide?

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Hidden in Plain Site Beyond the Exfiles and Underground and Underwater Bases. These three

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dense pieces give us keen context into subterranean bases in the form of stringent,

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fact-based analysis through publicly available records, FOIA documents, declassified documents,

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and the occasional witness testimony. Deep underground military bases do indeed exist.

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This is fact and we will explore this fact today, but do these sites engage with UFO legacy programs?

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And if so, which DOD sites and what do they do? And could the decades of rumors regarding

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underground tunnels connecting these clandestine sites through an internal rail system

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possibly be true? Hey guys, it's UAPGurb and thank you so very much for joining me today as we

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embark into the world of the subterranean to investigate dums and UFOs. The subject of UFO

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legacy sites embedded into mountains with hidden hangars sequestered a mile beneath the Earth's

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surface or hidden anywhere out of the public and satellite view has long been a talking point

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of this channel in my investigations. Today we finally look below the Earth's surface to evaluate

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the existence, feasibility, and operations of UFO legacy programs and deep underground military bases.

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To borrow from the title of the first chapter of Dr. Richard Sauders underground bases and tunnels,

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deep underground military bases are indeed real. Throughout this project I will be interchangeably

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using the term dumb and subterranean facility or stiff. The name said to me by multiple veterans

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who have traveled to such underground locations. And speaking of, I should mention I have spoken to

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nearly half a dozen former military personnel who have traveled to stiffs across the country.

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I try to shy away from inserting first hand source testimony in anecdotes into my videos and let

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evidence and research speak for itself so I will interject with these first hand testimonies when

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and if necessary. In a 1989 speech titled Underground Facilities for Defense, Experience and Lessons,

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Deputy Director of Engineering and Construction for the US Army Corps of Engineers Lloyd A. Ducha

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said quote,

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In the same talk Ducha would then go on to exclaim quote,

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although the conference program indicates the topic to be underground facilities for defense,

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experience, and lessons, I must deviate a little because several of the most interesting

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facilities that have been designed and constructed by the Corps are still classified end quote.

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Acknowledged military subterranean facilities do indeed exist.

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Publicly known sites include the Norad-Shion Mountain Complex buried deep under Colorado Springs.

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This enormous installation built to monitor North American missile threats sits 2,000 feet

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underground and spans 5.1 acres featuring six three-story high and 40-foot wide tunnels and

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15 three-story buildings made of steel plates. And these are just the acknowledged portions of the

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base. Additionally, the Raven Rock Complex aka Site R serves as a secure underground command center

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or backup Pentagon and is shrouded in mystery. This site under Fort Detrick, Maryland includes

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accommodations for 3,000 people, has an inbuilt medical and dental clinic, fire department,

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post office, and five acknowledged three-story buildings. The secrets Raven Rock must hold are endless,

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but existing acknowledged dumps are not the focus of today's investigation.

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Instead, we plan to pursue dumps that operate as UFO legacy program locations and explore the

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feasibility of decades of rumors of hundreds, if not thousands of miles of underground tunnels

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and railroads connecting deep underground UFO legacy operations. To once again quote,

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US Army Corps of Engineers, Deputy Director for Engineering and Construction Lloyd A. Dusha,

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when speaking about the corps involvement in the 1960s construction of the Cheyenne site, quote,

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As stated earlier, there are other projects of similar scope which I cannot identify,

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but which include multiple chambers up to 50 feet wide and 100 feet high, using the same

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excavation procedure mentioned for the NORAD facility. And quote,

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After all, according to a 1985 US Army Corps of Engineers report titled,

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Literature Survey of Underground Construction Methods for Application to Harden Facilities,

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Stiffs can be built anywhere with the right amount of money and in myriad types of structures

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utilizing deep shaft structures and facilities tunneled into mountain sites. The report even states, quote,

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Since adequate technology is available to construct hardened underground facilities under virtually any

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ground conditions, the main constraint in construction projects remains economic viability rather than

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technical feasibility. As we know from David Grush and multiple other sources and testimonies,

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UFO legacy programs operate on the US Black budget. Untraceable, deep-sixed money and contracts

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buried within special access, controlled access, and unacknowledged special access programs.

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From the excellent work of Catherine Austin Fitz, I mentioned often, we also know that as much as

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$21 trillion in unauthorized spending has occurred between 1998 and 2015. And this is just within the

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DOD and Department of Housing and Urban Development, much of which Fitz believed was designated for

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clandestine military R&D. Publicly denied UFO research development test and evaluation

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underground locations would absolutely classify as such. Dums for clandestine and unacknowledged

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use is also a practice very much currently in play. One such example is Warrington US Army

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Training Center located in the Northern Virginia town of Warrington. The book The Secret Team,

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the CIA and its allies in control of the world by Fletcher Prouty, identified a highly secretive

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underground installation that serves as a federal relocation center by an unknown agency.

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This was confirmed in an inquiry magazine article titled Going Underground by Robert Walters,

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which plainly states that US Army Warrington Training Center is a CIA covert facility.

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Additionally, there is the highly secretive US Navy underground facility in the mountains of

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West Virginia near Sugar Grove. This location is an underground site run by the Navy for the

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National Security Agency. So the NSA and CIA already have a traceable interest in using US

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military bases underground facilities as a cover for unknown usage and operations. So before

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discussing much of the testimony of UFOs and Dums, let's quickly touch on the reality and

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history of these impressive often unacknowledged sites.

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The inception of Dums in the United States can actually be traced back to the Nazis

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in Operation Paperclip, the famous program to recruit Nazi scientists,

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engineers and technicians into US government employment. Near the end of World War II,

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the Nazis had begun utilization of what we might call Dums. In the book Lucky Forward,

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the history of patents third army, Colonel Robert S. Allen detailed allied discoveries of

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Nazi underground bases. Quote,

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some Nazi installations were over 50 feet underground comprised of several miles of two to three

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story facilities. The sites were arranged like wheels with spokes designed with reinforced concrete.

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The Nazis designed such locations as Ordruf to house Nazi high command after the bombing of Berlin

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but never got the chance to populate the facility. We additionally have the Regenworm Lager,

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or Earthworm Camp in Poland. This Nazi sprawling underground complex beneath West Poland's full

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extent is still unknown today. The site featured miles of underground tunnels and electrical

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train lines connecting bunkers, fortifications and other critical military facilities. This sounds

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familiar, no? Two declassified documents can be discovered dating back to 1947 regarding the

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aforementioned Operation Paperclip. Featuring the documents are requests by air material command

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for a quote-unquote requirement of four German technicians to consult on a planned underground

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plant program. One man named was Xavier Dorch, director of the TOT organization in the closing

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of World War II. This was the Nazis equivalent of the US Navy C-Bs or US Army Corps of Engineers,

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not part of formal German military structure. The founder of this organization Fritz TOT designed

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the famous German Autobahn Highway System. Towards the tail end of World War II, Dorch had helped with

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developing a series of massive underground industrial manufacturing facilities to hide from allied

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bombing raids. It is indeed quite possible he also aided on the Regenworm Lager and Ordruf.

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Documents and research show Dorch once briefed the Americans after he was captured in 1945 and

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again in 1949 we do not know the full extent to which he aided in these programs. These massive

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Nazi underground industrial manufacturing facilities possibly give us our first look into UFO legacy

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programs and dums. I have covered on this channel the 1933 Magenta Italy UFO crash retrieval,

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a case whose validity is strongly supported by David Grush. You said it's a 90-year cover-up.

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Just about, yeah. 90 years. 1933 was the first recovery in Europe in Magenta, Italy. They recovered

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partially intact vehicle. In this case the Nazis purportedly took control of a crash

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lenticular disk from the Italians in 1943 before being recovered by the Americans post-war.

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Hans Kommler was a Nazi engineer behind construction of numerous concentration camps including

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Auschwitz and led myriad Nazi secret weapons projects. Kommler would have indeed been one of

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chief scientists and engineers to study a recovered lenticular craft due to his unrivaled command

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over Nazi secret weapons programs. Kommler went missing near the tail end of World War II,

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however documents prove rather convincingly this evil engineer was taken alive into US custody.

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Albert Speer, Nazi and Reich Minister of Armaments and War Production, claimed in April 1945

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Kommler informed him he had business to offer the Americans. OSS agent Donald W. Richardson seemingly

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confirmed this by stating 70 years after he still couldn't fully speak on interrogating Kammler.

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But the Nazis had brought treasure to the US that, quote, served the development of armament

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platforms for the Cold War and for the future, end quote. Under Kammler's command numerous

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underground tunnels and bases existed employing German companies to develop and build parts for

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advanced aircraft and secret weapons programs. Kommler has even said to have stashed treasures and

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documents regarding his think tanks top secret documents in a facility underground in the woods of

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Czechoslovakia. According to Hidden Nazi by Dan Rooter, 44 years after Operation Hidden Documents

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to retrieve the stash top secret documents, an American team from Lawrence Livermore Labs and

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Los Alamos Labs 2 FFRDCs went to a new underground cavern that had not been emptied at the end of

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World War II called Mednic Hill. What was found here was, quote, the key to what was hidden at the

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previous site, end quote. It goes without saying it stands to reason Kammler conducted early iterations

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of UFO legacy programs underneath Mednic Hill, as well as his numerous underground locations and tunnels,

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and that Xavier Dorsch was a key engineer in constructing these facilities.

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With Dorsch being requested by Air Material Command and Kammler being more than likely secretly

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smuggled by the Americans, these two men could very well be the key architects of modern day US,

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UFO and dumb legacy programs. I am no expert in history, so to learn more about Kammler,

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I strongly recommend watching the documentary The Two Lives of Hans Kammler. Later in this project,

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we will see even more ties between Nazi Germany, Dums, and Paperclip, then in the form of Maglev

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train systems. On numerous occasions in the 1950s, the United States proposed massive underground

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facilities that seemingly disappeared from public light. It is unknown if many of these facilities were

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built or not. One example can be traced to 1957 to Green Mountain outside Huntsville, Alabama. Huntsville

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is deeply enshrouded in US anti-gravity research, but we are looking elsewhere. Two articles in 1957

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reported the US Army was planning to build a rocket factory inside of Green Mountain.

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The plan was proposed by the American Machine and Foundry Company, Redstone Arsenal,

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and the Army Ballistic Missile Agency. This location was slated to have a sort of subterranean

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junior Pentagon where elaborate headquarters would be installed to direct the defense of the southern

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US from enemy attack. Again, it is unknown if this location was ever built. However, such discussion

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of a junior Pentagon illustrated early private military cooperation, a theme we will touch on much

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more much later. Analysis of US military and underground studies additionally allows us valuable

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insights into Dums, take the Rand Corporation for example. An FFRDC I have spoken about ad nauseam

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is a primary semi-government institution up to its eyeballs in UFO legacy programs. Rand Corporation

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was established in 1948 and grew out of Army Air Force Project Rand in 1946. Project Rand sought

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to carry out long-range research projects of interest to the Air Force. In the 1950s,

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USF and Rand began working on the question of underground-based construction and organized various

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symposiums. Let's analyze a resulting 1959 publication Deep Underground Construction.

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The purpose of such a symposium according to the chairman was to discuss quote,

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the problems of protecting military installations located deep underground or under mountains

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end quote in the event of nuclear war. The chairman also stated since 1957 the Rand

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Corp had been quote actively investigating the need for a small number of super hard deep

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underground centers end quote. Additionally in 1960 Rand published a study under USF contract

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dealing 12 locations for underground sites. All sites were assumed to be more than 1,000 feet deep.

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Of specific interest here is Site 3 in Santa Barbara, California. Santa Barbara is located just over

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100 miles from the Antelope Valley, California we will discuss later. Research suggests a major

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network of UFO-focused stiff facilities exists interconnected under the Antelope. Site 3 is also

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located less than 100 miles away from Los Angeles where a tremendous amount of DOD research

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development test and evaluation laboratories lie. We have already mentioned the US Army Corp

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Engineer giving in 1989 a quite frank admission of classified underground facilities.

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An outside of the 1987 US Army Corp Engineer report detailing construction of Dums boils down

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to cost. In 1959 to 1961 the Army Corp Engineer published a five part training manual titled

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Design of Underground Installations in Rock. This startling series assumes the pre-existence

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of underground facilities. The report states quote vital government installations have been placed

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underground as exemplified by the Richie Project. Many of these facilities were designed as

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command and control centers and survival bunkers for nuclear attacks. These are known as continuity

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of government sites. Raven Rock qualifies as one such continuity of government or COG DUM.

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Design of underground installations in rock additionally makes some statements of extreme

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relevance to the testimonies of Dums and UFOs. Some installations listed by the Army were to be

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shallow, while quote more important equipment and facilities essential to defense may be installed

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in deeper workings that are likely to be long and tunnel-like, occupying one or several stories.

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End quote. The report detailed enormous underground facilities featuring 50 by 50 feet tunnels

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and chambers as much as 100 feet high even stating quote truck or rail traffic might be important.

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The Army even cautioned quote landscape scars roads and portal structures aka entrances

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should be as inconspicuous as possible. Kama Flos should be considered end quote.

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This is of extreme consequence when discussing testimonies such as MS who detailed the entrance

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to the Dugway Stiff as a small building in the middle of nowhere. In 1963 the US Army Corp

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Engineers published a manual titled utilization of nuclear power plants in underground installations.

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This manual discuss self-contained nuclear powered underground facilities with button-up

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diesel secondary systems. Critically in 1964 the Army Corp Engineers or COE proposed 12

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massive structures to be built up to 4,000 feet underground. There are two sites here of massive

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importance to our investigation. One facility below Yuma County Arizona to be accessed via a

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vertical or inclined shaft. Such entry points are common amongst claims of UFO dumb such as the

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Dugway Dumb whose entrance is purported to be a vertical elevator shaft. In Stephen Greer's

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DPI archive who fans of this channel will know I have extracted a tremendous amount of information

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and worthwhile investigation from witness 10773 statement reads quote,

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knows of massive research and storage facility material of unknown origin at Yuma Proving Ground

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and quote fascinating connection here. Yuma Test Center is also home to Yuma Proving Ground,

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a US Army major range and test facility base similar to Dugway Proving Ground's Army MRTFB

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Test Center. Yuma Proving Ground is also run by Army Test and Evaluation Command. Indeed it is

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no stretch to assume if a stiff exists under one of these Army MRTFB's unequally impressive facility

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likely exists below the other. Second here is Site 3 in Inyo County, California to be accessed via

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incline shaft. Inyo County resides on the inside boundary of China Lake Naval Weapons Testing Facility.

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China Lake is one of the Navy's premier major range and test facility base and a location

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spoken of on myriad occasions as an underground legacy program location. China Lake really needs

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no introduction but stay tuned as we will discuss China Lake in much more detail along with Antelope

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Valley. But quickly to mention Dr. Richard Sauter received testimony from a Navy contact who

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served at China Lake. The witness confirmed an impressively large and deep installation claiming

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the facility extends one mile deep and contains quote weapons more powerful than nuclear weapons

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end quote. Alongside the US Army COE the US Navy is also deeply entwined with underground and possibly

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under sea bases but that's another story for another day. In 1972 Naval Facilities Engineering

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Command issued a report titled Sub-Surface Deployment of Naval Facilities discussing several Navy

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installations to be placed underground. These include Administration, Medical, Aircraft Maintenance,

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Amostorage and Miscellaneous Storage Facilities. The US Navy's CBs additionally maintain underground

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installations between the Presidential Camp David and CIA Facility Camp Peary which we will discuss

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later on. In 1947 US Air Material Command requested Nazi technicians for construction of underground

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facilities. In 1989 Lloyd Dusha admitted numerous underground installations existed and were

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classified. This means Stiffs of Interest were built from 1947 to 1949 of 42 year period. We can

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also assume some facilities were built before 1961 where the five-part Army COE document assumes

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the existence of such facilities. One such example here may be Grume Lake Area 51 that was built in

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the 50s on the site of a former boron mine. After all a 1991 DARPA report details secret cavities

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may be found in conjunction with underground mines. However due to the existence of literature

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undescribed future plans for massive bases post 1961 that really hold our interest we can

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assume from 1961 to 1989 the majority of our Stiffs of Interest were constructed.

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Dums are not a new subject to the study of UFOs or my channel. I myself have talked a

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tremendous amount of the alleged DARS Defense Advanced Research Center. A 10 story underground

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location built under Area 51 relayed by USAF Master Sergeant Edgar Fouche that dealt with alien

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reproduction vehicles including the TR3B. I have also spoken on the enigmatic Northrop Tejhan,

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Lockheed Hellendale and McDonald Douglas RCS facilities that have since at least 1987.

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Been accused by excellent researchers such as Bill Hamilton as housing UFO legacy programs and

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don't worry we will touch on these facilities in much more detail later. Quite recently I've

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discussed the Dugway Dumb as relayed by witness MS and even provided images and details of the

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exact alleged entrance to the facility which exists as an elevator shaft concealed by a tiny

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building in the middle of nowhere Dugway near German village. As strange as that might seem a 1991

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paper issued by DARPA the Defense Advanced Research Project Agency and US Army Missile Command

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titled Development of Inspection and Detection Techniques for Hidden Cavities.

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This document served to train field nuclear weapons inspectors to identify underground

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clandestine test complexes in developing nuclear nations. The report plainly states buildings

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of various size can provide cover for shafts or other openings to a secret underground cavity

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sound similar to MS, no? And lastly I've relayed the testimony of Randy Anderson in the underground

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facility under the Naval Surface Warfare Center crane housing the alleged off-world technologies

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division. The subject of underground UFO legacy programs rose to prominence in 1989 with the claims

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of Bob Lazar and reverse engineering under site 4. As well as the Dolcee-Base Fiasco where starting

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in 1979 Paul Benowitz was fed disinformation of a joint human extraterrestrial base under Dolcee

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New Mexico. Both S4 and Dolcee are worthy of further investigation in fact I believe S4 to be a

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very real location but due to the controversy around these accounts discussions of these sites

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will be largely emitted from today's discussions. The first true mention of Dums and UFOs I can find

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is from Look magazine in an article titled Is This the Real Flying Saucer dated 1955.

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The article discussed a Canadian company constructing a flying saucer while also depicting a

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facility built underneath a hill with a vertical shaft to the surface allowing the departure of

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flying saucers. Further rumors of UFOs and Dums wouldn't really arise until the 1970s so this

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article is indeed intriguing. Leonard Stringfield's UFO crash retrieval status reports 1 through 7 is a

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body of work I often praise extensively. After all Stringfield is in my opinion one of the greatest

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UFO investigators of all time. His work on UFO retrieval incidents and operations span from 1978 to

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1994 and relay some of the earliest mentions I can find of deep underground legacy operations.

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Let's briefly explore a few. One such intriguing report is an anonymous letter Stringfield received

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12 February 1974. The letter highlighted secret research on UFOs taking place at a secret

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underground complex below gray army airfield and Fort Hood, Texas. According to the witness the

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complex is shared with ICBM silos built into a small mountain. This is fascinating as later in the

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project we will discuss how numerous Dums were constructed primarily as ICBM sites. The witness

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described a section of the mountain would open up onto a jet interceptor runway which was once

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accidentally observed by a private pilot making a forced landing over this restricted air corridor.

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This underground facility according to the witness was tied with NORAD in Cheyenne Mountain

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Colorado, Wright Patterson Air Force Base, Ohio, Tinker Air Force Base, Oklahoma, Carswell Air Force

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Base, Texas, and others. And this is where the anonymous account gets very interesting. The

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witness stated the complex employed a squadron of unmarked helicopters dispatched quote when the

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need arises and quote codenamed the blue boys. This sounds incredibly similar to UFO recovery

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rapid reaction units I have spoken about in numerous crash retrieval cases such as the blue

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berets in the 1965 Kecksburg, Pennsylvania case. The choppers additionally carried a new type of

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missile the source had been informed had been used on UFOs but a new system had been in development

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which would be far more efficient. This was an electronic warfare system designed to disable UFOs

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under quote unquote controlled conditions. This letter would arrive to Stringfield's desk in 1974

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but now in 2025 we have heard the whistleblower testimony of Jake Barber where he discussed

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EMP type weapons designed to bring down UFOs over the enigmatic range.

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This technology that could be used to disable vehicles and aircraft.

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I can disclose this. My understanding is that they were essentially using it was actually I

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think it's a matter of Republic record that microwave weapons, pulse microwave weapons were being

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used at that time. Correct. There were some early prototypes that were being used at that time

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and I met individuals that were there representing the companies that were providing that service

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to the government made some friends and those relationships led to opportunities later in the

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California desert where I began my journey. Leonard would actually see a volume of reports

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regarding underground complexes at Fort Hood including a use afflutinent colonel who relate to him

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in 1975 of an underground project that took place at Fort Hood. In 1976 Stringfield met an individual

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from McGregor Texas who claimed his father had worked beneath Fort Hood on the UFO program.

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This second-hand witness relate a quote from his father stating quote,

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Spanning the late 70s into the 80s Stringfield received myriad reports of an underground

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facility beneath Wright Patterson Air Force Base housing preserved non-human biologics.

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One such account was relayed from witness J.K. who worked at a Nike missile site in Wilmington,

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Ohio. J.K. claimed to have seen nine alien bodies under Wright pad in 1966 encased in glass

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frozen to preserve. J.K. also claimed recovered craft were housed at McDill Air Force Base,

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Langley Air Force Base, and Seymour Johnson Navy Training Center outside of Norfolk, Virginia.

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These locations purportedly all housed craft and sometimes biologics in underground hangers to

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conceal material from military and politicians. Stringfield heard similar accounts of biologics

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under Wright pad relate second hand from one T.S., who allegedly witnessed bodies in the early

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1950s. T.S. were amongst a handful that relayed such stories. Leonard Stringfield would also

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once receive an anonymous undated letter from a U.S. airman who was stationed at Kirtland

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Air Force Base, New Mexico. The source relayed rumors and stories of UFOs being stored in the

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Manzano storage area in remote Kirtland. Remember if you will, Kirtland is home to Sandia National

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Labs, FFRDC, which ranging from the Interplanetary Phenomenon Unit report to accusations of

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reverse engineering a propulsion device for the TR3B by Edgar Fouchet has stood as a high

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probability candidate in UFO RDT&E programs. Manzano Mountain Underground Facility is no myth either,

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while researching for his 2001 book Underwater and Underground Basis, Sauter received FOIA documents

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of two underground facilities below Manzano. While these documents of course say nothing about UFO

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storage, it is fascinating to see Sauter confirm the rumors of an underground installation beneath

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Kirtland. Lastly, I want to reference an anonymous letter to Leonard Stringfield I have covered

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before. This is dated March 14, 1975, which claims to recount the testimony of one Lieutenant

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Colonel Sims, a pseudonym. I previously discussed this letter in reference to the project on Ed.

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An Edwards Air Force Base, 412th Test Group Electronic Warfare Test Director who claimed to the

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existence of a joint UFO reverse engineering program. Operating between Edwards Air Force Base

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and the Nevada Test and Training Range. Viewers of this channel will know I consider Ed to be one of

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the most critical UFO legacy witnesses of all time, and as a quick side note, Ed also referenced

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attending the S4 site. This letter was referenced due to the mention of Hans Com Air Force Base and

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the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, an air base in university where Ed worked from 2002 to

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2005 on foreign military assets. Amongst the intriguing mentions of contractors, FFRDCs,

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UArcs, and air bases involved in UFO research and investigation, the source relayed Lieutenant

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Colonel Sims speaking of several computer banks hidden within underground installations scattered

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across the US, housing sophisticated computer equipment, electronic instrumentation, and mobile

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radar units. According to Sims, these underground installations employ quotes,

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squadrons of unmarked helicopters which have sophisticated instrumentation on board that are

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dispatched to areas of UFO activity to monitor these craft or airlift them out of the area if one

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has malfunctioned. This sounds quite similar to the Blue Boys' rapid reaction unit relayed to

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Stringfield does it not, but perhaps we have other confirming evidence, so let's also reference

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the book Trinity's Children Living Along America's Nuclear Highways. The authors of this book state,

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quote,

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In Trigging, as we already know Kurtland and by extension,

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Sandia employ at least two underground facilities in the Manzano Mountains.

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Low Salamost National Labs additionally employs a deep underground installation.

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Dr. Sotter had quite an interesting engagement with Low Salamost. He repeatedly attempted to foyer

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the Department of Energy for Information on Underground Facilities and Tunnels beneath Low

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Salamost. The DOE continuously responded there were none. Eventually, though, the DOE provided Sotter

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a badly blurred phototastic copy of an article by Earl Zimmerman titled,

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LASL's Unusual Underground Lab, which described an underground facility built in the late 1940s.

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This article was undated and of uncertain origin, however Zimmerman can be found labeled as a

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press bureau member from 1963 to 1965 in a 2020 Low Salamost Organizational Chart. Dr. Sotter

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additionally met with a businessman who relayed his experience in visiting Low Salamost in the

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company of a highly clear dissociate. The businessman was privy to wherever his esteemed colleague

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went without question. The individual claimed 75% of Low Salamost's facilities are underground and

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extend as far as one mile underground. In relation to T.U.O's and UFOs, so far we have covered

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very real stiffs under Curtlyn, Slash, Sandia and Low Salamost while also discussing the possible

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existence of facilities. Existing under right Patterson, Fort Hood, Slash, Gray, Army, Airfield,

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Yuma County, China Lake, as well as the Nevada Test Site under the Nevada Test and Training Range.

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Now onto one of the most critical areas of my research, the Antelope Valley, California.

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For this section we will reference the work of both Dr. Sotter as well as the late Bill Hamilton,

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a tremendous UFO researcher. Hamilton served as a true pioneer of the field,

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serving as the first researcher to ever produce the term and a public image of ARV and even

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handed incredible witnesses such as Mark McCandlish and Bill U-House to Stephen Greer. Hamilton's

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excellent book, Cosmic Top Secret, an ultra rare early 1990s lecture recorded for VHS titled

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UFOs and Underground Bases. Offers us keen insights into Hamilton's research on Dums and specific

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area of interest, the Antelope Valley. In fact, Hamilton produced a map related to him by sources of

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connected underground UFO facilities in the American Southwest. We will compare this map to existing

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DOD laboratories and RDT&E locations later on in this video. China Lake Naval Air Station is

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also quite close to Antelope Valley so we will discuss that enigmatic facility here as well.

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Since the late 1980s, Hamilton's work focused on Antelope Valley, California.

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Many will know this region as one of the chief centers of aerospace technology.

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Housing the infamous USAF Plant 42, Lockheed Skunk Works, the former Norton Air Force Base,

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the legendary Edwards Air Force Base, major installations for Northrop Grumman, Rockwell,

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and McDonald Douglas, as well as numerous intriguing radar cross-section facilities in the form of

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Northrop Tejhan, Lockheed Hellendale, and McDonald Douglas. I have spoken on all of the aforementioned

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facilities in Briar Work. Palmdale, California within the Antelope, has served as an unrivaled US

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military-slash private contractor classified aircraft production and maintenance location.

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The region has produced many of the United States' most famous advanced aerospace platforms,

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such as the RQ4 Global Hawk, B2 Spirit Bomber, B21 Raider, F-117 Nighthawk, and F-35 Lightning.

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The Antelope Valley in the city of Palmdale have also served as a critical pillar of my research.

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Whether this be Norton Air Force Base, serving as the location where primary witness Brad S observed

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the flux liner alien reproduction vehicle, witness Ed disclosing his work for the 412th test group

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serving as test director for reverse engineered vehicles out of Edwards. Edgar Fouche,

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who stated pilots of the TR3B reverse engineered triangle ARV were plucked from the Edwards 412th

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test pilot school, or the alleged project red light out of Edwards, which served to act alongside

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Area 51 to test reverse engineered vehicles very similar to the claims of Ed. Antelope Valley is

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the most consequential location that has ever come up in all of my research. The late Hamilton

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was obsessed with the radar cross section facilities mentioned above. Specifically the Northrup

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Tehan installation, sometimes referred to as the Tehatchapi facility or Ant Hill. Due to the rumors

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of incredible amounts of underground tunnels beneath the installation, in my video on Northrup,

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I investigated this RCS facility in great detail. Thanks to the research of Dr. Sotter,

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we know the Northrup Tehan RCS does indeed have an underground facility. Just as does Helendale

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and McDonald Douglas, the question is how big, how deep and what do they do. Some rumors persist

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of up to 42 levels with underground tunnels connecting the facility to Edwards and other installations.

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The concept of a corporate dumb should come as no surprise to anyone. In 1981 the American

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telephone and telegraph company, yes AT&T revealed several underground emergency centers.

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Believe it or not, AT&T itself has been historically implicated in non-human technology transfer,

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but that is not our topic for today. These underground centers exist 40 feet below ground and feature

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three story centers with data banks, dorms and kitchens. One such location is reported to exist

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in Catrone County 180 miles near Sandy a national labs. This is not surprising seen from 1949 to 1993,

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AT&T and its subsidiary Western Electric ran Sandy a national labs at Kirtland at the order of

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President Harry S. Truman for the Department of Energy. Indeed as recently as 1970, the standard

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oil company of New Jersey operated an emergency center 300 feet underground near Hudson, New York.

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This location that more recently held corporate reports featured dining halls in 50 sleeping rooms

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for key company officials. But back to Tehan and quickly, for those who don't know what exactly

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is a radar cross-section facility. To summarize, these facilities utilize high frequency radio waves

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to test aircraft's radar signatures. This military testing aids in the development of stealth

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technologies by reducing radar cross-section. The site features large runways and pylons raised

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from underground on concrete diamonds as mounting pads to blast aircraft and materials with radar.

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Many RCS facilities including the three in Antelope Valley saw construction during the Cold War.

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This led the majority of the installation being built underground to hide RCS pylons equipment,

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models and technology away from Soviet spy satellites. Numerous researchers over the years have accused

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the Northrop Lockheed and McDonald Douglas RCS sites as integral legacy program locations focused

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on the downing, retrieval and storage of non-human craft. The contentious Dr. Stephen Greer even

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claimed to have both knowledge of the entrance for the Ant Hill Dumb as well as personally been

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flown over these sites and observed the electromagnetic pulse weapon systems that are used to

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down craft. Now interestingly, the Senate Intelligence and Armed Services Committee and other

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senior officials had no idea of this. The top people and the special forces who were outside this

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illegal black project system didn't know about it. I had known about it since the 90s,

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but I'd never of course flown directly over it because it's classified airspace and very sensitive.

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So you can see what looks like a trough and a runway. It's just where the man-made UFOs that we've

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been building since the 1954-55 come out. They go up and they hover their silent to their

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electromagnetic anti-grav. The diamond on the left, you see that looks like a runway with a diamond,

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it's not a runway because they don't need to run and get there's non-erodynamic. They just go boom

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up, but they're placed over different diamonds. I have a whole series of video and pictures of

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these who don't have time to go through and that's where they're put at various elevations and then

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struck with an electromagnetic weapon to see if it's hardened enough to withstand conflict.

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When discussing the RCS facilities and in particular Hamilton's obsession with Tejhan,

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some may remember the XF-131 Super Sentinel. This incredible triangular ARV was drawn by forensic

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artist Bill McDonald and later featured in season one of the X-Files. According to McDonald,

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the craft design was relate to him from two Northrop Tejhan and two Lockheed Hellendale engineers

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who were jaded from the intense secrecy from which they operated. I personally have spoken to

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McDonald on numerous occasions regarding this triangular ARV out of the Antelope Valley and put

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much credence into this testimony. For years, Hamilton compiled first-hand witness testimony

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regarding Antelope Valley and specifically the Northrop Tejhan to Hachepi site. Let's briefly

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investigate a few of these testimonies. A local man with property on 170th street,

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west of Tejhan reported to Hamilton of the ground opening like a missile silo where a flying

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saucer took off. Edwards Air Force Office of Special Investigation silenced this witness.

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UFO researcher Dr. Richard Boylan alongside the first-hand source of Bill McDonald have additionally

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accused Tejhan as a manufacturing site for reverse-engineered vehicles including the XF-131 Super

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Sentinel and anti-gravity disc dubbed by Boylan the Great Pumpkin. A contractor named Chuck

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relayed his experience digging the underground tunnels beneath the Ant Hill to Hamilton.

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This source claimed tunnels in the dump had round doorways with few doors and red and green lights

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for ID and entry. An intriguing source of Hamilton claimed to have worked on project star talk at Tejhan.

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This project involved lasers in a big building underground for the purpose of constructing

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systems to quote unquote bring in UFOs. This source mentions scalar technology,

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a concept Stephen Greer would later on discuss for decades as a weapon source to down UFOs.

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The star talk informer also claimed to work at McDonald Douglas stiff or he observed a UFO

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held in an underground hangar. This name was very hard to make out by a 144p documentary but one

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Hamilton informer went by the name Gobern who claimed to work at Tejhan, Helendale, and the Nevada

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Test in Training Range. This source relayed to Hamilton he worked with alien technology that

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deeply frightened him. According to the source, onsite personnel would rotate every 14 to 16 days

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living and working on site and there existed a command center under Haystack butte which connected

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to the Ant Hill. Hamilton had numerous other informers who would discuss experimental discs being

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flown out of Edwards airfield, extraterrestrial discs being held under Edwards and underground UFO

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work below a hangar on Edwards North Base. Many of these informants would discuss ground vehicles

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like electric cars within the dumps and maglev train systems connecting the base to others.

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We will of course discuss this much later on. From his data and sources, Hamilton learned of a

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supposed massive complex of underground facilities in the Antelope Valley engaged with UFO,

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testing, storage, and material exploitation. All connected via tunnels and transport systems,

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these facilities included Tejapee, McDonald Douglas, Helendale, George Air Force Base, Edwards,

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the NASA rocket test site, and China Lake. A network of joint USG and corporate facilities all

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connected in the Antelope Valley dedicated to the storage and exploitation of UFOs has proven to

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be quite a common theory since the late 80s and early 1990s work of Hamilton. I'd once again

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like to reference Stephen Greer witness AH. I have discussed in multiple projects AH, a Boeing

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insider with numerous connections to UFO legacy programs, has historically and likely to this day

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served as a primary source of information for Greer. In his 2000 tape testimony, AH delivered to

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Greer much of the information Greer still discusses to this day, including reference to a massive

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facility existing below Dugway. AH additionally discussed a complex of underground facilities near

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Anzo, California, just south of Antelope Valley, while also addressing a critical Northrop underground

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facility named of course Tejhan. Did you share with you many other information on other facilities that got

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with this issue and US oil bronze? Yes, he mentioned there's a base here in California near Anzo,

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California, and there's another base in the deserts of Tuk, I believe he said Tuk, Tuk, Tuk,

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Tahon or Tahon. I believe he said Tuk, Tahon, Tuk, Tahon, I believe that's the word that he used.

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There's a base near Lancaster and Palmdale area and near, this is very funny, it's near North

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rop. There's an underground area out there too that he was aware of. But he particularly mentioned

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stayed focused on Anzo, California. There's some underground areas up there too that they're

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researching some of this technology and at March Air Force Base through Project Red Light.

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Of this network of proposed facilities, one possible dumb stands out from the rest,

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Edwards Air Force Base. As mentioned in nearly every project, Edward serves as home to the 412th

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Test Group, a major range and test facility base. Witness Ed, a vetted and accomplished

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USAT veteran, claimed Edwards and the Nevada Test in Training Range, specifically Nellis Air Force

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Base in Area 51 slash Groom Lake, which is actually run by an Edwards 412th Detachment runs a

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joint UFO reverse engineering program. Outside of the claims of Hamilton's informants,

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regarding Edwards and craft stored in underground installations, there are many fascinating

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testimonies and avenues of research we might pursue. Remember how one source of Hamilton

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claimed to have worked on the Antillope Valley installation under Tejón and Antelope Valley?

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The source claimed the installation's command center existed under Edwards Haystack bute.

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This sentiment is shared by the controversial and enigmatic whistleblower Dr. Michael Wolf,

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who claimed as a UAP consultant to the National Security Council, he heard live extra terrestrials

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under Haystack bute Edwards. Test facilities are built into an on Haystack bute, east of Edwards.

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Indeed, these facilities are run alongside a primary field lab at the remote northeast corner

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of Edwards by the Air Force Research Lab's Aerospace Systems Directorate. AFRL, Edwards 412

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Test Wing and NASA Flight Research Facility work together at Edwards to plan, conduct,

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analyze and report on all flight and ground testing of aircraft, weapons systems, software,

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and components as well as modeling and simulation for the use-aff. Since facilities are built

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into the bute, it is no stretch to assume locations are built under the Haystack bute.

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And remember, this use-aff AFRL rocket propulsion division and the rocket test labs on Lumen Ridge

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were named by Hamilton and his informants as featuring a stiff location connected to the

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wider Edwards underground complex. This lab features a number of underground missile silos but

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the extent to which the Air Force propulsion laboratory sprawls underground is unknown.

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However, and very interesting, numerous studies out of the Air Force rocket propulsion lab

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have shown a heavy interest in anti-gravity propulsion. Is this location definitely UFO legacy related?

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Unknown. But a strong argument can be made from witness testimony and lastly, a bit north to

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Antelope is China Lake Naval Air Weapon Station. As we showed in a 1964 Army Corps of Engineer Study

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titled Feasibility of Constructing Large Underground Cavities, Inyo County which shares territory

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with China Lake was considered for underground purposes. The underground cavity of interest was

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4,000 feet deep and it is unknown if this facility was built. However, numerous witness testimony

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may give us some idea. As we also discussed above, Dr. Sauder had been given testimony by Navy

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veteran stationed at China Lake who not only claimed the facility goes one mile deep but weapons

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work is conducted on quote, weapons more powerful than nuclear weapons end quote. Hamilton himself

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also had a source who allegedly served as an aerospace engineer consultant to NASA and Colonel.

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This unnamed Colonel claimed he worked at an underground installation at China Lake,

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Edwards Air Force Base and the Nevada Test Site. These locations were according to the source

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connected via a maglev train system from which he would often enter through a dump beneath

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white sand's missile range. I put stock in this testimony due to speaking myself to a witness

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who claimed to travel via underground train system from a fort in Texas to white sands. This

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source an Army officer in the 2010s claimed the train's speed and acceleration were so great

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it reminded him of his fear of flying. We also have Ed and the mention of Edwards and the NTTR.

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China Lake is not mentioned in his testimony however it stands to reason the very near

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China Lake which serves as the Navy's largest single land holding representing 85% of the

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Navy's weapons and armaments are DT&E programs. Could likely see crossover TUO programs with the

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U-SAP. If these programs exchanged non-human craft materials and research it stands to reason

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such transactions would be conducted underground to maintain secrecy. I would in the future like to

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do an entire video on China Lake so hang tight. Corporate and military installations do indeed

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exist below Antelope Valley. Again the question is do these sites deal with technologies of unknown

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origin and exploitation programs. Antelope and Palmdale are home to aerospace juggernauts and

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Miria Diodi RDT&E and MRTFBs and have for decades featured numerous testimonies of ARV

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underground installations and claims of UFO legacy programs due to these factors plus witnesses

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who have told me they have traveled below the Antelope Valley I am inclined to conclude such an

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ant hill if so to speak does in fact exist to work on UFO legacy programs.

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The vast majority of our focus today is the American Southwest and endless claims of underground

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UFO research in RDT&E but quickly I do want to look east. We have already discussed

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stiffs used by the CIA and NSA under cover of the Army and Navy respectively but what about UFO

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stiffs. For this reason I would like to look to the United States Capitol and address the deep

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underground command center. The DUCC was a stiff below the Pentagon that was never built however I am

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not sure just how true that statement is. Now an acknowledged stiff under the Pentagon does indeed

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exist the National Military Command Center responsible for generating emergency action messages to

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missile control launch centers nuclear subs and battlefield commanders. This NMCC was set to serve

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as an interim facility for the never built DUCC. The deep underground command center was first

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proposed in 1963 three weeks before the assassination of JFK. To classify top secret documents dated

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7 November 63 detailed former Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara proposing meetings to discuss

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the National Underground Command Center. These plans for the National or Deep Underground Command

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Center detailed a complex command center built 3500 feet below Washington DC. This location would be

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built to withstand direct hits of 200 to 300 megaton warheads that penetrate 70 to 100 feet below

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the surface before detonation. Two separate facilities were proposed an austere facility with 10,000

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total square feet and 5,000 operating square feet accommodating 40 people at a depth of 3500 feet.

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This would cost over 110 million dollars or 1.1 billion today. The second was a moderate sized

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facility with 100,000 total square feet and 50,000 operating square feet accommodating 300 people

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at a depth of 3500 feet. This would cost 310 million or over 3.2 billion dollars today.

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The joint chiefs interestingly proposed the austere facility to be too small. The operation capsule

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of the center would be near the Pentagon and an access elevator would descend 3500 feet underground

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from the Pentagon to the installation. This may seem like a massive undertaking, however.

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The memorandum stated quote, there is little argument that the construction of a DUCC is technically

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feasible. To quote the memo again quote, the nature of the DUCC regardless of the initial size selected

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lends itself to later expansion. Once Lyndon B. Johnson took office, a second memorandum was issued

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16 January 1964 from Wal-Rostow to McGeorge Bundy stating the DUCC concept should proceed.

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Rostow served as a senior advisor to both Kennedy and Johnson. An additional memo followed

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the same day from McGeorge Bundy to Carl Cason showing planning for the DUCC had been going

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forward since the early days of the Johnson admin. Cason was deputy special assistant for

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national security affairs to Kennedy and possibly stayed on to advise on the DUCC program.

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The memo additionally stated Cason having spoken to Harold Brown read the DUCC. Brown served as

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director of defense research and engineering from 1961 to 1965. A last hop secret memo dealing with

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the DUCC was issued by the Bureau of the Budget estimated between 1963 to 1964. 40 plus percent of

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his document is redacted. Was the DUCC ever built? Conventional sources would say no, however I would

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argue indeed it was. This confidence of mine is from sources who have described to me firsthand

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encounters within an enormous cavernous facility below the Pentagon. But how does such a proposed

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facility deal with the subject of UFOs? If the DUCC was indeed built it is a publicly denied site.

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Therefore we can feasibly reckon if the site does exist it deals with subjects critical to US

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national security. Since the 1954 atomic energy agreement materials pertaining to UFOs have been

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misclassified as trans classified foreign nuclear materials. As relayed by physicists Robert

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Sarbacher in 1950 UFO programs exist and their classification resides even higher than that of the

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H bomb. On this channel I've spoken in depth that UFO legacy program operations are the ultimate

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secret deep-sixth clandestine set of programs deeply embedded within special access programs.

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The Pentagon resides near Crystal City. Crystal City features eight of ten of the US's top defense

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contractors and the small neighborhood is where two thirds of federal contracts are awarded by value.

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This location holds primary offices held by Northrop Grumman, Lockheed Martin, Boein,

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Raytheon General Dynamics, L3, Aerojet Rocketdyne and more. All contractors I highly suspect engage

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with UFO programs. The neighborhood also holds or is in close proximity to numerous FFRDCs I believe

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are up to their eyeballs in UFO programs. These include the Center for Naval Analysis,

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Institute for Defense Analysis, Aerospace Corporation and Rand Homeland Security Operations Analysis Center.

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Additionally Crystal City is home to myriad DOD research agencies including DARPA, Office of

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Naval Research and Air Force Office of Scientific Research. I do believe similar to the Antelope Valley,

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Crystal City's amalgamation of DOD entities, FFRDCs and contractors is a major center of

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operations for UFO legacy programs. Perhaps due to limited airspace and usage of MRTFBs,

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unlike the American Desert in Southwest, Crystal City is where the majority of UFO related

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usaps are created, maintained and kept secure. This is a thesis I will continue to explore and

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depth in the future. If Crystal City does indeed majorly engage with clandestine UFO

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unacknowledged special axis programs, it stands to reason such a classified effort involving DOD,

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private and semi-private entities would require a massive underground facility.

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The idea of a major network of underground tunnels connecting Dums nationwide is often scoffed at.

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I have no idea if the entire nation's stiffs are connected via tunnel system, but a strong argument

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can be made complex systems of interconnecting stiffs exist in the American Southwest in East

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Coast. After all, in a document obtained via FOIA by Dr. Richard Sotter, we even have hard

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numbers from the military industrial complex of the estimated number of total personnel needed to

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build and operate a deeply buried hundreds of mile long tunnel system. And this is the order of

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7800 to 8700 people, and we also have a hard estimate for the total expenses associated with

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constructing, operating and maintaining such a system, the neighborhood of $17 billion

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over a 10-year period. Many such acknowledged tunnel systems exist, like the Department of

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Energy sprawling tunnel network below the Nevada Test and Training range, but let's continue to

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explore the feasibility of massive tunnel systems connecting bases dozens or hundreds of miles apart.

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The technology for such undertakings does indeed exist. The most likely candidates are nuclear

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subterrines and tunnel boring machines. Tunnel boring machines are huge cylindrical,

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mechanical boring machines that tunnel through rock and soil, chewing out circular tunnels that

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may range in diameter of up to 35 or more feet. These goliaths are powered by electrical motors

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that have a cutting head equipped with various metal attachments made of super hard alloys that

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cut through rock as the head rotates. The head rotates and the cutting tools dig into the rock,

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ripping and gouging it away. The excavated rock or muck is then passed by a conveyor assembly

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to the rear of the machine where it can be hauled away by truck or train. According to the

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Pacific Gas and Electric Company, utilizing a Robbins Company TBM to bore a 22,000-foot-long

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24-foot diameter tunnel, it took a rate of 5-6 miles per year. However, in better conditions,

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some TBMs could bore at a rate of 10 miles per year or greater. Roughly double the rate of the

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Pacific Gas and Electric Company. This would mean Dums below China Lake and Edwards could be

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connected in as little as 5.5 years. Nuclear subterrines were originally designed by low-salimost

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national lab, sound familiar. The patents for such machines were filed, technical documents were

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written, but the project seemingly faded into obscurity. These fascinating machines were by

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melting through rock and soil, leaving neat, solidly glass-lined tunnels by vitrifying materials.

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Heat is supplied to the system via compact nuclear reactors that circulate liquid lithium from

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the reactor core to the tunnel face, melting rock in front of the machine. Cooled liquid lithium

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then circulates to the back of the machine alongside the exterior of the machine to cool surrounding

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rock as the machine is forced forward. Patents were first proposed by the Atomic Energy Commission

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in U.S. Energy R&D in 1972 and 1975. Further nuclear subterrain patents in 1975 detailed tunnel

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systems of 12 meters or more in diameter. All but one of the inventors listed in the three patents

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above were from low-salimost. Additionally, at 1973 low-salimost study titled, systems and cost

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analysis for a nuclear subterrain tunnel machine, a preliminary study concluded nuclear subterrines

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to be a cost-efficient solution to satisfy U.S. transportation tunnel demands. Similar to how we

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deduced numerous Dums were built around 1961 to 1989, we can make similar deductions regarding

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connective tunnel systems. If such an enormous tunnel system exists, it likely saw construction

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beginning around the early 1970s, 1974 to be exact. The Bechtel Corporation is an American

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engineering procurement and construction management company founded in the U.S. Bechtel has often been

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targeted as one of the U.S. Corporation's responsible for dumb tunnel systems. In 1974, Bechtel released

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a report titled, Research Program Plan for Meeting Tomorrow's Needs in Tunneling and Excavation

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Final Report. This report states, quote,

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interestingly enough, the same report shows a massive list of novel ground disintegration

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techniques in R&D stages. In 1972, the governing board of the National Research Council formed the

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U.S. National Committee on Tunneling Technology. This committee functioned as the, quote,

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United States Focal Agency in the field of tunneling technology to assess and stimulate improvements

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in tunneling technology applications and to coordinate U.S. tunneling technology activities

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with those of other nations, end quote. By 1977, this U.S. NTT had six major subcommittees

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including the Deep Cavity and Tunnel Support Systems Committees. U.S. NCTT partnered with

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numerous corporations, agencies, and academics of particular interest to this channel. These include

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both Sandia National Labs and Betele Memorial Institute. I have accused Betele of engaging deeply

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with UAP legacy programs including operations at the Dugway Allege DUM. In 1981 and 1982,

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the U.S. NCTT sponsored a project called Workshop on Technology for the Design and Construction

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of Deep Underground Defense Facilities. This was done at the behest of the Nuclear Defense Agency

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and co-sponsors included the Bureau of Reclamation, Army, USAF, Navy, DOE, and National Science Foundation,

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including others. The 1982 report of the Workshop detailed the need for 400 miles of tunnels ranging

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from 2500 to 3500 feet for various purposes including housing nuclear missiles. These tunnels were

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to be up to 16 feet in diameter with quote, interconnecting passageways and addits horizontal

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passageways for storage, living quarters, and other needs, end quote. The location of such a network

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of tunnels according to the New York Times would be quote, probably in the desert of the Western

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United States. Such tunnels and installations were to be powered via fuel cells or nuclear reactors

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and as we saw in 1963, the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers was very serious about nuclear reactors

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powering self-contained underground installations. Fuel cells may also be of special interest here

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seen as in 1984 Boeing published the results of a study that set forth plans for power generation

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in deep ICBM bases using iron chlorine fuel cells to generate power. The U.S. N.C. TT called for

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mobilization of this plan in the late 80s and early 90s. The committee called for tunnel boring

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machines to be utilized starting in 1985 for carving tunnel systems. By 1988, U.S. N.C. TT was

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publishing reports titled tunneling and underground space technology discussing underground missile

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systems ranging between 3000 to 8,000 feet underground. During this period in the 80s, numerous

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contractors I have directly accused of being involved in UFO legacy programs would aid in the

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construction of deep underground missile bases and tunnel systems. Of course, we must assume some,

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if not many, underground nuclear missile bases may have served as clandestine R.D. T.N.E. facilities.

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This should not come as a shock as we have already discussed U.S. intelligence agencies utilizing

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underground military sites for secret operations. Such corporations include BDM who was awarded in 1985

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a contract to conduct quote, intercontinental ballistic missile deep basing communication study

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end quote, as well as TRW who had since 1968 been involved in studies into high speed ground

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transportation tunnel design and cost analysis. Both corporations were later on bought by Northrop Grumman.

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The 1985 BDM study is of particular interest here. Remember if you will earlier that same year

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20 to 25 May 1985 to be exact BDM McLean also held the Advanced Theoretical Physics Conference.

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The meetings of this exclusive group were classified utilizing DOE controls. Notes of this conference

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were released by attendee Oki Shannon who formally served as manager for special projects at

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Los Alamos National Labs. This McLean Virginia Secure Facility Group discussed myriad aspects of

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UFOs including legacy programs and a major engineering project under Bobby Ray Inman. Viewers of my

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channel will absolutely recall Inman mentioned often as a senior UFO legacy operations member.

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At this time the vice president of BDM was former major general and founder of US Army

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Inzcom Albert Stubbelbine. Stubbelbine will be mentioned again in this project including how he

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was accused of engaging in UFO craft storage and material exploitation while head of army

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intelligence at Fort Hachuka, Arizona. Interestingly the Advanced Theoretical Working Group was spearheaded

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by US Army Colonel John B. Alexander who from 1982 to 1983 reported directly to Stubbelbine.

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Additionally recall how Philip J. Corso claimed a UFO working group was established in the mid 80s.

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According to Corso this group saw ample funding from US Army Inzcom General Stubbelbine.

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It is interesting to think of possible ties between this ICBM deep basing communication study

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and Albert Stubbelbine and the Advanced Theoretical Physics Conference and a possible UFO working

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group accused by Philip J. Corso. Throughout the 1980s US industry and government additionally

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demonstrated a keen interest in life support systems for massive tunnel systems,

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underground ICBM installations as well as deep and I mean deep underground bases.

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This can be demonstrated in a November 1985 contract to unitech technologies,

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Hamilton Standard Division for life support and chemical biological agent mitigation system on small

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ICBM deep basing programs. US Army Corps of Engineers as well as US NCTT have even

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discussed provable technologies, times and prices to construct such massive tunnel systems.

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Yet no data exists on any large scale tunneling project.

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This may force us to look deeper like at the low profile records of the Bureau of Reclamation

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who during the 20th century excavated hundreds of miles of tunnels up to 28 and a half feet in

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diameter at depths of hundreds to thousands of feet. Quite often the Bureau would utilize classic

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tunnel boring machines. Numerous inside sources to Dr. Richard Sotter have informed him that some

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of the Bureau of Reclamation's tunnels have doubled as cover for other clandestine underground tunnels.

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To quote underground and underwater bases quote

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From a hypothetical point of view, what is to stop a tunnel boring machine from tunneling off

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of an aqueduct tunnel deep underground and striking out secretly to make a clandestine tunnel?

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It takes about 10 men to operate a TBM and in good rock you can count on as much as 15

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miles of tunnel per year. For decades rumors of underground railroad systems specifically

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maglev trains have been inseparable from testimony regarding dums and UFOs.

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As we discussed earlier in the Antelope Valley section such a concept was relayed to UFO

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researcher Bill Hamilton by some of his many informants. But just how true are these rumors of a high

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speed electromagnetic railroad system often described as a pneumatic system, aka a train system operating

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in a partial vacuum tube? To begin what is maglev? Maglev trains are a type of rail system

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levitated by electromagnetic rather than employing wheels. Maglev's feature numerous benefits to

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conventional railroad systems including higher speeds, superior acceleration and deceleration,

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lower maintenance costs, improved gradient handling and lower noise. But are much more expensive

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compared to traditional systems, maglevs have even reached top speeds of 375 miles per hour.

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A pneumatic tube trains are an early form of transportation or air vacuum to move containers

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or vehicles through tubes while minimizing friction. New York's first subway system was an

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underground pneumatic tube transport line created by Alfred Eli Beach. Earlier in this project we

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spoke of Nazi scientists being sequestered by air material command in the US to work on underground

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complexes. I would also like to draw attention to Herman Kemper. Kemper was a third-rike engineer

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who created a concept for the roar bond. The roar bond was a system of magnetic levitation trains

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designed to speed through underground vacuum tunnels at hundreds or even thousands of miles per hour.

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Suspended passenger cars on magnetic fields would be propelled through tunnels negating any

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friction of wheels, rails and air. Kemper's research began in 1934. By 1938 he envisioned Berlin

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connected to other European cities with cars traveling that 600 to 1000 miles per hour.

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It is unknown how far the Nazis pursued this concept nor is it known if Kemper was recruited by

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Operation Paperclip. A feasible hypothesis here is Kemper was contracted by the US to help build

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early iterations of Maglev pneumatic systems. Maglev UFOs and doms are often lumped together as

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conspiracy, however Maglevs are not a niche concept. Since the 1960s Maglev technology has seen

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numerous patents and by the year 2000 even Lockheed Martin entered into agreements with Trans

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Rapid International USA to develop Maglev technology in the US. In fact by the early 1990s and

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acknowledged multi-agency National Maglev Institute was formed. This joint effort by the DOE and

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US Army Corps of Engineers sought to quote define the role Maglev could play in US transportation

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system to assess the potential for Maglev in the domestic market, to recommend a strategy for

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the introduction of Maglev technology and to identify the most appropriate federal role.

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This NMI published a report in the early 90s titled Compendium of Executive Summaries from the

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Maglev System Concept Definition Final Reports. This series of reports sought to determine

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nationwide Maglev system availability by the year 2000 some interesting players appear in this

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document. This includes a joint project with Bechtel, Hughes Aircraft and MIT which employs a UARC

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for the Army. A second report saw work by Boeing Aerospace and General Dynamics to study superconducting

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levitation. To top this off a third study saw joint efforts into superconducting magnets performed

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by Grumman Corporation pre-Northrop, Bechtel Memorial Labs and Honeywell. All contractors mentioned

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above in above board Maglev technology research I highly spec'd have for decades attempted the

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reverse engineering and material exploitation of non-human craft. However rumors of clandestine

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Maglev systems far precede the 1990s and 2000s. Dr. Richard Sotter as well as Bill Hamilton first

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heard whispers of such systems in the 1980s. Sotter himself referenced reading reports of

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underground rail systems to Area 51 from Mercury Nevada and the Naval Surface Warfare Center

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Corona Division. Discussion of these rail systems would even pop up in online UFO forums around 1997.

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Look at the name on the top of these testimony reports, AJ Kratok. In Disgust in the Dugway

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Kratok is an oil tycoon operating in Libia that helped Stephen Greer in the 1990s with C. Cety.

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Kratok brought Greer in my opinion incredibly valuable and relevant information regarding Area 51

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moving many UFO operations to Dugway. So if Maglev systems existed far before UFO legacy

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program defense contractors engaged with the acknowledged National Maglev Institute where

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and when might these systems have been developed and of what technology. The mid 1960s saw established

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engineering professors from the Office of Naval Research, Army Research Office, and

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Boos Allen Hamilton established the International Society for Terrain Vehicle Systems, or ISTV.

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Real quick, in the mid to late 20th century, I believe Boos Allen Hamilton was as involved

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in UFO legacy operations as Northrop Grumman is today, but that's another project for another day.

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The ISTBS Working Group coordinated research around high-speed underground tube train systems.

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At the same time of the ISTBS, the US Department of Commerce established a multi-agency panel

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focused on high-speed underground tube train systems. The panel produced a 1967 report titled

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R&D for high-speed ground transportation, which states, quote,

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regardless of the system adopted, it can be assumed that extensive tunneling will be involved.

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It is recommended that the department cooperate closely with other agencies in planning and

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funding, research into this area to provide an extra stimulus for rapid development, end quote.

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Of massive consequence to this investigation, in 1972, Robert Salter of the R&D Corporation

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published a study titled The Very High Speed Transit System. In this study, R&D set out a continental

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deep underground concept that was described as, quote,

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electromegnetically levitated and propelled cars in an evacuated tunnel, end quote.

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This study makes some truly shocking statements, including, quote,

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speeds as high as 14,000 miles per hour have been examined in studies by the R&D Corporation.

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In an example case of a direct link between Los Angeles and New York, requiring only 21 minutes

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of transit time, the speeds required will certainly be on the order of thousands of miles per

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hour on long haul links, end quote. I believe Salter additionally makes a critical statement that

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lend strongly towards the subject of UFO legacy dums. Salter states, quote,

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These intermediate staging points are apparent. When throughout this video, I have made and will

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continue to make in the Hamilton Map segment the argument that UFO dumb networks feature central

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hubs. These hubs, if so to speak, are connected to one another and branch to local smaller dumb

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facilities. Think of a railway central station connecting to other major stations while also

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featuring alternative lines to small local stops. Much of this technology was based on work

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conducted by Robert Goddard, father of modern rocketry's 1945 vacuum tube transport system,

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as well as Michael Minovich, the physicist behind introducing gravity-assisted propulsion

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around planetary bodies 1961 work deep underground tube shuttle. Salter and Rand strongly

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recommended placing the VHST underground to remove interference with environmental factors

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such as grade crossings, weather, and infrastructure and also observed that it was not appreciable

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harder to tunnel at great lengths underground than at shallow depths. Within this study is a map

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of the proposed VHST that corresponds strongly to build Hamilton's alleged western state dumb

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network, but more on this later. Around a similar time frame to this Rand study is the high speed

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ground transportation initiative. This group became operational in the 1960s performing most of

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their work in the 1970s before slipping out of public view in the 1980s. For a period of 10 to

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15 years, the United States saw enormous efforts into R&D and feasibility and desirability of high

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speed underground tube shuttle train systems. Entities involved in this program are countless,

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including TRW General Dynamics MIT Southwest Research Institute behind Project Stargate,

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General Electric NASA, Army, Navy, and Battelle Memorial Institute. I have mentioned some of the work

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published under this initiative before, including TRW's 1967 study titled ABB Stracts of Concepts of

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High Speed Ground Transportation Systems. Remember, TRW was purchased by Northrop Grumman and long

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considered as the contractor behind the Majestic 12-like Entity Project Zodiac. For the High Speed

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Ground Transportation Initiative, TRW additionally prepared a study titled State of the Art Tube

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Vehicle System in 1970. This study discussed tube systems and tunnels as deep as 3,000 feet underground,

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using trains that would travel at speeds of 450 mph. Similar to the dumb tunnel concept,

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no admission of maglevs connecting stiffs is publicly available. However, there is an overwhelming

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body of historical evidence that US and defense contractors have had a keen interest in high speed

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underground transit systems traveling at least as fast as a commercial airliner.

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To close off our investigation, I would like to return to 1992's Cosmic Top Secret by Bill Hamilton.

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In this masterpiece of a book, Hamilton provides a map of underground facilities and tunnels

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provided to him by one TAL in 1990. Some data here is from Thomas C, aka Thomas Castillo,

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which is an extremely controversial source with the Dolcee, New Mexico story, so instead,

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let's go ahead and analyze the map. This network spans the American West and Southwest with

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major installations listed in Southern California, New Mexico, and Colorado. As expected earlier,

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we find Edwards Air Force Base connected to myriad locations including numerous small marks labeled

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R&D. We also see a supposed underground base marked Cat. This is of course Catalina Island,

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fascinating how in 2023 and 2024, discussion began to swirl of an underground extraterrestrial or

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human base off of Catalina Island. We also see Area 51 as a major reference with connections to

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Tonipa, an installation infamous in UFO lore as well. We also find interesting solo marked

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dumps not connected in this alleged system including Fort Hachuka, Arizona. A location I estimate is

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involved heavily in UFO programs. Remember if you will, Fort Hachuka holds a defense agency major

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range and test facility base, a critical core facility called the Joint Interoperability Center.

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Army Intelligence at Fort Hachuka was previously run by US Army Innscom founder,

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Major General Albert Stubblebine. Stubblebine and Innscom have been accused by myself in numerous

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projects amongst others as engaging in UFO crash retrieval, storage, and material exploitation.

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Therefore, it is really no surprise to see Hamilton's map designate Fort Hachuka as a dumb location.

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On the map are many locations in New Mexico, including the controversial Dolce,

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Los Alamos, and Sandia slash Kirtland. The latter two we know have underground facilities,

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indeed the same extents to Cheyenne in Colorado. Intriguing to note here is an installation in Chihuahua

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Mexico. This subject wouldn't be touched on again until Jake Barber's Romana Clay called

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Setinals of Ether. This project describes a 2004 blue-on-blue UFO retrieval team fire operation

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in which the clandestine team flew into a disguised base hidden in the mountains of Chihuahua.

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What happens when we start to compare this map to others? See now a comparison between Hamilton's

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dumb network and RAND's VHST? See the interesting direct route shared across the two maps through the

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Northern area of Arizona and New Mexico. Additionally observe how Southern California sees routes split

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to both Southern California near San Diego and Northern California near Sacramento before continuing

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north to Portland and Washington. Also notice connections to Denver on both locations. Outside of

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Cheyenne Mountain Complex, Denver, Colorado is home to an enormous underground FEMA complex.

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This is likely a continuity of government or COG complex. My true interest lies in comparing the

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Hamilton piece to defense laboratories and centers across the United States. Here we will not

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find groom-lake amongst other select facilities but I believe this comparison is of critical importance.

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If you will, please forgive the maps not lining up. The 1990 map is scaled differently than the 2019

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DOD map so the two are not merged to scale perfectly. Aligning the two maps brings extreme

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interest to both dumb locations as well as markings on the Hamilton piece that are labeled R&D.

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Since this map pertains to connected underground UFO installations, we can assume by the maps

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legend these locations do not employ dumbs but are still focused on UFO legacy R&D. As expected,

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Southern California brings a massive amount of locations of interest. Even outside of the Antelope

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Valley to the southwest in Los Angeles lies a tremendous amount of DOD RDT and E-labs,

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FFRDCs like RAND and Aerospace Corporations and U-Arcs like the USC Institute for Creative

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Technologies. Numerous other locations outside of the Antelope line up between the two maps we

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have discussed throughout this investigation including Fort Hachuka, Shayan Mountain Colorado,

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Dugway and its two MRTFBs, Los Alamos, White Sands Missile Range, Sandia and Kirtland Air Force Base.

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From referencing DOD labs we can also learn Kirtland and its proven underground facilities stand out

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even more. Kirtland additionally holds the Air Force Research Lab Space Vehicles Directorate and

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Directed Energy Directorate. Of note shared on these maps, albeit slightly shifted, is the fourth

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defense estate microelectronics activity in Northern California. In DOD terms, FFRDC describes non-military

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parts of the DOD. These include the defense contract audit agency, defense contract management

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agency and the defense finance and accounting service. FFRDCs and field activities all watching

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this video might recognize our DARPA and the defense missile agency. Prior to this investigation,

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I had never come across mention of a dumb below the DMEA, so this is a terrific point of research

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moving forward. Let's also reference more of the non-connected R&D locations on Hamilton's map

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that exists as acknowledged DOD RDT&E facilities. In Nebraska on both maps we find identification

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of the US Stratcom University Affiliated Research Center, the University of Nebraska National

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Strategic Research Institute. Viewers of my work know UARCs and FFRDCs are cornerstones of UAP

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Legacy programs, so it is interesting to see Hamilton identify a UARC as a UFO R&D location

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all the way back in 1992 that would not be founded until 2012. In Oklahoma, we observe Fort

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Sill as UFO R&D and the Naval Surface Warfare Center Indian Head Special Weapons Division

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the Callister Detachment as UFO Storage. I have come across both of these locations in my research,

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however it is interesting to see an NSWC location labeled as storage, especially after the

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testimony of R&D Anderson and the off-world Technologies Division at the Naval Surface Warfare

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Center Crane. In Northern Kansas we observe overlap of a UFO research facility. This facility is

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the US Army 11-Worth Research Unit. In Texas we find Fort Hood Army Research Unit as a UFO

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research location, however it is interesting to see this facility is not marked as a stiff,

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especially after numerous testimony relayed by and researched done by Leonard Stringfield.

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The Hamilton map deserves an entire investigation of its own and possibly I will do so with Dr.

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Saudder. Because after all this map does accuse dumbs of existing that all locations we have previously

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discussed as well as many that warrant further investigation including Fort Stockton, Fort Irwin,

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Van den Berg AFB, Chocolate Mountains Aerial Gunnery Range, 29 Palms, Hutchinson Air Force Station,

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and Peterson Air Force Base as well as the cities of Kingsley Nebraska, Tulsa Oklahoma,

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and Riverton, Wyoming. I have spoken to Dr. Saudder and he has spoken directly with Bill Hamilton

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regarding this map so just maybe he can aid in further dissecting of these locations.

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I think probably my last 4 videos straight I have mentioned one if not multiple of these locations.

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As we made it to the end of this video, I would like to thank Dr. Richard Saudder for all of his

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excellent research. Now this video is going to be doing things a little bit differently. Of course

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in every single one of my videos I include my show notes in the video description or a link.

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Please bear with me a couple days here as I have not only compiled my research links for this video

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but also every single document that I can find that Dr. Richard Saudder has included in his

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three books. Every single defense technical document, every single Army Corps of Engineer document,

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every single document I can find which there's hundreds. Please allow me a couple days to compile

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all that and deliver that because I think it's excellent to read through all of those. Please

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read through Dr. Richard Saudder's books. They're excellent. As we know from today, the subject of

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Dums is very vast. It's almost impossible to know where and when to start. There is a tremendous

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amount of literature on deep underground facilities for continuity of government use,

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for ICBM silos, for just general underground installations accessible by vertical or incline shaft.

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There's also a tremendous amount of information specifically starting post 1974 with Bechtel

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on large-scale tunneling systems and conventional and unconventional blasting methods. This

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would be a tunnel-borne machine or a nuclear subterrain as a conventional method or explosives or

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possibly nuclear detonation as unconventional. Also, a lot of literature on maglev technology. I

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know these three subjects of interconnected dumb bases are often scoffed at without a lot of

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research. But this is a very serious subject and at least I would say focused in the Southwest

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and the American Desert and the East. There are probably large networks of Dums. This would include

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New Mexico, Arizona, Southern California, possibly up to connecting to Dugway and Colorado, and then

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a network out east, including the Warunted Army Training Facility, Camp Peary, Camp David,

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the DUCC, which I wager highly exists and so forth. Now of course, let's treat this video as a part one.

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A part two will be a project with Dr. Richard Sotter. I spoke to him the other week for about two to

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three hours and he graciously agreed to come on the show and talk more about Dums. I think what's

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really interesting here is there are numerous informants just like Bill Hamilton had that have told

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him about installations and facilities and perhaps he can tell those on our project together and

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relay them because he said some to me in our conversations that he hasn't repeated publicly that are

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indeed quite interesting. Also, when Bill Hamilton was still alive, Dr. Richard Sotter talked to him

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and length about his network of Dums maps. So possibly for an hour, hour and a half, we will

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dive into that. So please look forward to Dr. Richard Sotter project coming in the future and

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please also look forward to these show notes. You know, another thing I'm doing is I'm planning to

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build a website, no sign of need it, it's not the DPI archive, but I'm planning to

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put up a website where I have videos, transcripts of the videos and all research links. So I'd like to

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put those there. The only reason I plan to do this is to make it easier to access all the materials

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I put forth with my research, but I want to know what everybody thinks about Dums, specifically

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networks of Dums. Dums are not a controversial thing. Dums do indeed exist and from numerous

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testimony, whether that be Leonard Stringfield, whether that be testimony to Sotter, to Hamilton,

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to myself, there is a incredible argument that many of these facilities, DUM facilities engage in

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UAP legacy programs. I like to think back to the testimony of MS, for example, which led to a tremendously

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fruitful venture into the DUM under Dugway. And of course, we even have a specific entrance to that

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facility. Other research from other informants can be done on this. Another thing I did differently

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in this project, of course, is I hardly interject when witnesses have spoken to me about testimony

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or given me testimony. I thought it prudent in this investigation just when speaking about various

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dumb facilities. And to summarize, these include I've spoken to individuals who have been in networks

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under the Antelope Valley in location under Texas that connected via underground train that went

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so fast it reminded this army veteran of his fear of flying to White Sands missile range as well

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as the what we might call the deep underground command center out east. This is a location deep

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under the Pentagon. How deep I don't know. However, I have good insight. This is a facility or at

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least there are facilities here that are run by the CIA directorate of science and technology.

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If that sounds familiar to you, that was the CIA office that blocked the material transfer in

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2008 from Lockheed Martin to the OSAP program. And that was the 1953 Kingman crash.

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But the networks of DUMs are what are so interesting to me. For example,

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Harkening back to the story of Ed and the Nevada Test and Training Range and Edwards Air Force

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base, there's other testimony about connections in bases in Southern California to

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to Area 51, tone upon the Nevada Test and Training Range. If I could ever get Ed to sit down in

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a room and believe me, I've tried to speak to him. The first thing I would ask him if there's

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connective tunneling systems and what type of vehicles if there are that connect these two places.

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Now absent in this video, of course, I talked about in the beginning, other stories of Bob Lizar,

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the stories of Dolcee base and Thomas Castillo and the story of Phil Schneider. I believe that these

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witnesses, these subjects are very controversial. So I didn't include them because of their

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controversy, but because when I have such controversial claims, I think it prudent to investigate

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those and vet those and try to determine any sort of objective information from those when we

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can. So, you know, S4 for example, I do believe S4 is a facility that does indeed exist. Does it

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have extraterrestrial or non-human technology? I don't know. An individual I've spoken to that

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went to S4, talked about colored lines where to walk, but he didn't see anything that would

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say non-human technology, but then again, he was not privy to the entire base. But because of that,

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I would like to focus on subjects like S4, maybe Dolcee base and maybe other locations as well. And

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I will do those in a separate project. With this project, I wanted to take as objective of an

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approach as I could. I wanted to combine the facts we know about dums, about tunnel systems,

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about maglev systems and relay those two stories of the Antelope Valley, stories of locations

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out east. I mean, there is a tremendous amount of facilities I didn't get to cover here that I

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would like to revisit. So, again, as I spoke about in the project with Dr. Richard Soder, this is

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just kind of a taste into dums. I do think this is one of the most consequential subjects of UFO

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legacy programs. You know, like I said, and I'll say it again, most underground facilities, as we see

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from the US Army Corps of Engineers and other documents, were first proposed as a continuity of

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government, a COG or a ICBM silo facility. And we know that is partially true in the large

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FEMA underground center near Denver, Colorado, which everybody knows I'm from Colorado. So, that's

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near where I am. So, the Klandestine operation, when did these start? As we talked about the

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dums, there's a good argument that in post 1961, when the US Army Corps of Engineers really started

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to look into underground facilities, massive ones, ranging up to up to in some documents,

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8,000 feet underground into the late 90s. I think this is when the vast majority of underground

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installations were built, when were the connective tunnels built? If these do exist, which I believe

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many locations do feature connective tunnels. This, of course, as we saw in the back-to-report with

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conventional and unconventional tunneling methods, probably started around 1974. Between 1972

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and 1974, a whole host of tunneling committees and institutes were set up to investigate massive

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tunneling systems. And of course, following in the 80s and to the 90s, we see the same thing with

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Maglev technologies. So, I think the order of operations here is likely the dumbest built.

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Maybe a decade later, connective tunnels are built. And maybe a decade after that, the full

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train systems are implemented. I mean, in the 90s, we see the National Maglev Institute, and we see

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corporations like Grumman, like General Dynamics, like Battelle, doing above-board Maglev research.

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So, this could likely imply they had been doing clandestine research into similar projects

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into electromagnetics long before then. So, it's an incredibly fascinating subject, especially

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when you start to look at the Bureau of Reclamation and what Dr. Soder has relayed from his

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informants about the Bureau of Reclamation. This was possibly an above-board tunneling system

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in the American Southwest that featured clandestine secondary tunnels to bore out whatever was needed.

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And as we saw in the list I scrolled through, there are hundreds of tunnels from the BOR,

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that in the mid to late 20th century, and some of these are hundreds of miles long, some of these

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are thousands, and they range in depth from just underground to up to near a thousand feet. So,

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when Dr. Soder's informant relates to him that 10 men can operate a TBM, and a good TBM and

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good conditions can chew through up to 10 miles per year, I do think this is a likely candidate.

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You know, this harkens back to other UFO Legacy Program funding operations, how we,

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what we can make educated guesses via IRAD, SoulSource Contracts, IDIQ, and utilizing legitimate

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contracts to skim off funds for UFO Legacy Programs. Now, again, I want to know what everybody thinks

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if there are people here who have been to underground facilities, massive, deep underground facilities,

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please reach out to me. I would love to hear about your experience. I will respect your anonymity,

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but if you have a location, a facility to describe, or an experience in such a facility, please

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reach out to me. I would love to talk to you, but again, guys, let me know in the comments what you

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think. This has been a long spiel, almost 11 minutes. I think I've rambled quite a bit.

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Please remember to like and subscribe on the video, and remember, guys, I do have a Patreon.

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I think the content is important to view. So I'm not going to gatekeep anything because I would

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like all of my research, all of my projects, and all of my research materials to be publicly

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not to lock off any content. So with that, guys, I have a couple projects coming up. I'm really,

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really, really darn excited about it. I'm trying to think about how I'm going to juggle these,

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but about three projects on the immediate mind I'm already working on, including, and that includes

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the project with Dr. Richard Sauders. So I will catch everybody soon, and thank you so very

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much for joining me. Bye now.

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